Android is pretty big part of embedded world today
Android is pretty big part of embedded world today
Posted Apr 30, 2011 15:52 UTC (Sat) by khim (subscriber, #9252)In reply to: It tries to standardize linux distributions... by mezcalero
Parent article: Poettering: Why systemd?
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Unless you run Android (which is a completely different beast anyway), you'll almost definitely run one of these three init systems on your Linux kernel. (OK, or busybox, but then you are basically not running any init system at all.)
Well, busybox and Android pretty much cover most of the embedded development nowadays so it's kind of hard to consider your efforts seriously WRT mobile and embedded if you just ignore them.
Of course systemd is GPLed so I think there are no hope for unification. The most we can realistically expect is few ideas (and may be config files) borrowed from systemd and planted in Android...
Posted Apr 30, 2011 20:11 UTC (Sat)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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Posted Apr 30, 2011 20:56 UTC (Sat)
by khim (subscriber, #9252)
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That's why I said "it's useful there, sure, but it's not the goal". You can use systemd for embedded system with busybox and may be possible to adjust it to make it usable with Android too - but the article is pretty clear that these were non-goals when systemd was developed. If these are non-goals then you can not seriously say it was developed with embedded in mind. The fact that Linux is usable in embedded environment is kind of accident and the same is true for systemd. Let's hope systemd will not repeat the story of linux itself (where bunch of embedded guys created bunch of incompatible forks and it took eons to clean this mess up... and it's still not entirely cleared).
Posted May 1, 2011 16:11 UTC (Sun)
by martinfick (subscriber, #4455)
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Posted May 1, 2011 0:01 UTC (Sun)
by mezcalero (subscriber, #45103)
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Posted May 4, 2011 12:52 UTC (Wed)
by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458)
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And not so far back, embedded meant "software runs on the bare iron, just starts from DOS" (if there was some operating system at all involved, that is). Don't judge by what is dictated by today's limitations.
Android is pretty big part of embedded world today
That's why I said what I said.
That's why I said what I said.
Android is pretty big part of embedded world today
Android is pretty big part of embedded world today
Well, busybox and Android pretty much cover most of the embedded development nowadays so it's kind of hard to consider your efforts seriously WRT mobile and embedded if you just ignore them.