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Recommended reading -- itWire -- Groklaw: the good, the bad, the ugly

Recommended reading -- itWire -- Groklaw: the good, the bad, the ugly

Posted Apr 12, 2011 5:41 UTC (Tue) by FlorianMueller (guest, #32048)
Parent article: Groklaw shutting down in May

I recommended Bruce Byfield's "eulogy" and there's now another link worth sharing: Sam Varghese of iTWire in Australia wrote this two-page article on Groklaw

that raises a number of good points about what was wrong with Groklaw, and why it's time for Groklaw to go.

Sam recently did email interviews with Free Software luminaries, and his email address has the "gnubies.org" domain. He's a GNU activist, but as a journalist he tries to do a good job. Here are some of the best quotes from "Groklaw: the good, the bad, the ugly":

"a wildly partisan mob that cheered as each disclosure that made SCO seem unlikely to prevail was published." <- description of what Groklaw's audience was like in the early years

"There are legions who praise it as an outstanding work of journalism which it very definitely is not." <- absolutely correct, and Sam explains why

"But then Groklaw, which was often suspected of being funded by IBM, never divulged its source of funding either [...] if Jones had divulged the source of her funding - there had to be someone paying the bills as it was a full-time occupation maintaining and writing for Groklaw - then it is highly unlikely that the website would have had anything like the status it enjoyed during its tenure."

"a great deal of the coverage of matters FOSS comes from groupies - people who exhibit uncritical acceptance of the genre and all that it involves"

"One other negative aspect of Groklaw was the shrill, self-righteous tone adopted by Jones - the I-am-right-and-the-rest-of-the-world-is-wrong attitude [...]"

" Her approach often smacked of childishness."

"[...] has outlived its usefulness; calling time is an acknowledgement of this"


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Recommended reading -- itWire -- Groklaw: the good, the bad, the ugly

Posted Apr 12, 2011 13:30 UTC (Tue) by Los__D (guest, #15263) [Link] (3 responses)

Are you done with your crap anytime soon?

Recommended reading -- itWire -- Groklaw: the good, the bad, the ugly

Posted Apr 12, 2011 13:34 UTC (Tue) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link] (1 responses)

Without expressing an opinion on any other comments posted in this thread, might I please suggest that comments like this do not help and are only likely to exacerbate the problem? Please remember that LWN has a comment filtering mechanism (it's under My Account) which can make specific people go away for you.

Recommended reading -- itWire -- Groklaw: the good, the bad, the ugly

Posted Apr 12, 2011 13:47 UTC (Tue) by Los__D (guest, #15263) [Link]

I'm sorry, my bad.

Recommended reading -- itWire -- Groklaw: the good, the bad, the ugly

Posted Apr 14, 2011 12:18 UTC (Thu) by stumbles (guest, #8796) [Link]

I agree, his dribble is sounding like someone else we have heard "offering" their opinion. While he is welcome to it, if he'd just get shit right once in a while it wouldn't be so bad.

Groklaw is hosted on Ibilio, the site software is FOSS (free of cost) and there were a slew of people willing to donate their own time and money. He is now starting to sound like SCO/McBride and I paraphrase; "It's not possible a group of non-paid individuals could have possibly, conceivably created such as site; only paid for mouthpieces could have done such a thing".

I think he has blog envy. He simply does not have the intellectual transparency.

The words I want to use for you...

Posted Apr 12, 2011 21:55 UTC (Tue) by kena (guest, #2735) [Link] (1 responses)

I can't. Because this forum deserves better than you. Far better. Indeed, most of the people on here have been on long enough that we remember Usenet days. I hereby propose that we initiate a "Completely Ignore Any Post By FlorianMueller" movement -- or "CIAPBFMM," for short.

Why? Because his juvenile, mean-spirited, and intentionally misleading attacks serve no purpose other than to boost his ego.

So, come on, folks: whether he says good, or bad, no replies. What say you?

The words I want to use for you...

Posted Apr 14, 2011 13:53 UTC (Thu) by michel (subscriber, #10186) [Link]

I fully agree. But for some reason any time I see a post now by Mr. Mueller, the Westboro Baptist Church comes to my mind. No idea why, but they are also hard to ignore. Maybe just make fun of him and continue to ask for his remunerations.


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