Professional Quality CAD on Linux with DraftSight (Linux.com)
Although this new app is not open source, it is the first professional-level package available for free on Linux that can read and write the industry-standard .DWG file format. Free software CAD still has a long way to go, but for now DraftSight offers Linux users a rare glimmer of hope."
He goes on to look at some of the alternatives. "As frustrating as it is, those are the options right now for CAD on Linux: non-free software that supports DWG, or free software that doesn't. All this stems back to the need to reverse-engineer the DWG file format itself. An independent group called the Open Design Alliance (ODA) did just that, and created a Linux-compatible library called OpenDWG. Yet as is too often the case, the organization and product do not live up to their names. You must be a paid-up member of the ODA in order to access its software, and you are not allowed to share it with others.
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Posted Apr 5, 2011 21:43 UTC (Tue)
by einstein (guest, #2052)
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IMHO It's a foot in the door, and a welcome first step.
Posted Apr 6, 2011 2:11 UTC (Wed)
by iabervon (subscriber, #722)
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Posted Apr 5, 2011 21:53 UTC (Tue)
by rahvin (guest, #16953)
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FOSS software should be using the open standard DGN format not reading and writing the horribly proprietary DWG format. I'm not opposed to converters that allow the import and export because interoperability is important, but any FOSS program should not be natively using DWG.
Posted Apr 5, 2011 22:23 UTC (Tue)
by jimparis (guest, #38647)
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Posted Apr 5, 2011 22:51 UTC (Tue)
by wdbeal (guest, #74085)
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I could not find any reference that DGN is a truely open standard. Is it now ISO or something?
Posted Apr 6, 2011 17:05 UTC (Wed)
by rahvin (guest, #16953)
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I do know that they will give you the specs for the DGN file format by simply requesting them.
http://www.bentley.com/en-US/Products/MicroStation/OpenDGN/
I haven't filled out the form so I don't know what terms they demand for the download.
Posted Apr 5, 2011 23:16 UTC (Tue)
by PaulWay (guest, #45600)
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One thing that has helped 'office' applications on Linux is the existence of a common, open standard. Whether it's .DXF or something else blessed by the OSI or whoever, if a bunch of programs work with it then it becomes more popular and more useful as a result. If the Open Design Alliance isn't truly Open, then get together and do something else.
Have fun,
Paul
Posted Apr 6, 2011 3:56 UTC (Wed)
by grindstone (guest, #71208)
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Posted Apr 6, 2011 10:56 UTC (Wed)
by metan (subscriber, #74107)
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The ribbonsoft started to be "evil" and stopped community releases some time ago, the last one available is old qt3 version.
And because of that we now have a fork http://librecad.org which is ported to qt4.
I wish it good luck.
Posted Apr 6, 2011 23:30 UTC (Wed)
by antifuchs (subscriber, #34569)
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Posted Apr 6, 2011 8:55 UTC (Wed)
by ejmarkow (guest, #56170)
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Posted Apr 6, 2011 10:57 UTC (Wed)
by Klavs (guest, #10563)
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I've qcad to be a fine tool for my needs (drew building plans for my new house, for authority approval), and I've found the DXF format in latest qcad only works in autocad 2004 version though.
But I've heard from several autocad users, that they often have problems with older projects - not working in newer autocad versions etc. - so it's autocad who keeps changing the game appearently.
I don't know how "standard" DWG is in this aspect.
Posted Apr 6, 2011 17:07 UTC (Wed)
by rahvin (guest, #16953)
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Posted Apr 6, 2011 17:39 UTC (Wed)
by wookey (guest, #5501)
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The article says that LibreDWG is a long way from a release, but my experience is that's it actually works quite well for reading DWG files. The problem is that nothing uses the library, so it is of limited use on its own. QCAD/libreCAD using libreDWG would be extremely useful, because it's true that a lot of manufacturer-provided drawings are now DWG-only. I have no idea hard it would be to get libreCAD to read DWGs, but I hope someone gets enthused to do that work soon. I've package libreDWG for Debian. Needs a little more love then it can be uploaded.
Of course what we really want is 3D CAD so you can't accidentally make a building where the plan doesn't match up with the elevations. I did try doing CAD in blender, but it was pretty painful as blender was never really designed as a CAD tool. brlCAD was just too scary and complicated - it may be _really_ good, but again probably only in 1980's kind of way.
Something with the user interface from sketchup would be great for most people. It has issues too, but for many tasks it's brilliant, and the cloud-sourcing of subcomponents is a really useful concept. But again sketchup is proprietary software that can only be run on linux using wine (and I can't get the new version going at all) and the format is proprietary too (SFAIK), so that's no good.
The building-design area is desperately in need of a good dose of free-software. There are lots of sums that needs doing, many of them very easy which could be integrated into some Building Information Management software, with an online database of products, and using CAD tools to draw up shapes and layouts. The whole area is wide-open for some commoditisation, and I'd be very keen to get together with other like-minded souls to make something happen. I have a selection of evil spreadsheets that need turning into real software for structural calcs, heating design, energy efficiency and thermal analysis. There is some free software in this area, such as ESP-r which does 2D thermal calcs (but I've found it hard to even build, never mind use). It needs packaging...
Here's hoping for some more fundamental progress than freeware DWG-reading apps (nice as that is).
Posted Apr 7, 2011 8:10 UTC (Thu)
by amonnet (guest, #54852)
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Posted Apr 7, 2011 11:28 UTC (Thu)
by wookey (guest, #5501)
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Posted Apr 7, 2011 11:44 UTC (Thu)
by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
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Posted Apr 7, 2011 20:45 UTC (Thu)
by jrn (subscriber, #64214)
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Posted Apr 7, 2011 21:18 UTC (Thu)
by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
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http://www.opencascade.org/org/forum/thread_15859/
Also refer to discussions in
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/legal/2011-March...
If you need any further clarifications, you can post to the legal mailing list in Fedora.
Posted Apr 12, 2011 10:35 UTC (Tue)
by jrn (subscriber, #64214)
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Tom's comment was: "Why can't someone choose to offer support exclusively to customer A but not any other customer?" But as long as you are not guaranteeing that customer A is the only one that gets a warranty, you're okay. I don't see how this would come up in practice.
So while I see how a reasonable person or distribution might want to steer clear of this license and I wish the outcome were different so this obnoxious license could quickly fade into obscurity, I am not convinced it violates the guidelines Debian uses to determine what software is free, nor their spirit. (For what little that's worth. I am neither a lawyer nor a Debian Developer.)
Posted Apr 12, 2011 10:39 UTC (Tue)
by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
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