Ubuntu 11.04 Beta 1 (Natty Narwhal) Released.

Posted Apr 1, 2011 9:29 UTC (Fri) by jengelh (guest, #33263)
In reply to: Ubuntu 11.04 Beta 1 (Natty Narwhal) Released. by dgm
Parent article: Ubuntu 11.04 Beta 1 (Natty Narwhal) Released.

>You're being unfair. Ubuntu success is in part due to marketing, but the critical part is delivering something that works with as little fuss as possible.

On the contrary. Marketing is everything, who cares about whether it works. Just look at the past 20 years of the desktop. (And not forgetting that Debian actually delivered here.)

Ubuntu 11.04 Beta 1 (Natty Narwhal) Released.

Posted Apr 1, 2011 14:59 UTC (Fri) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link]

> who cares about whether it works.

Most people do.

> Just look at the past 20 years of the desktop.

Ah, an implicit reference to Windows. Your definition of "works" may be different from that of most people. For the record, for me it basically means it does what needs to be done, without having to memorize a manual. It doesn't means do it in a safe way, or only with free tools, or the fastest way possible. Just get it done. And move on.

> And not forgetting that Debian actually delivered here.

Maybe all the pieces were available, but installing Debian and configuring it after that was NOT a task for the faint of heart. A collection of pieces a system does not make.