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Why do you think it's useless?

Why do you think it's useless?

Posted Nov 16, 2010 11:38 UTC (Tue) by khim (subscriber, #9252)
In reply to: AMD joins MeeGo by martinfick
Parent article: AMD joins MeeGo

Once the carriers figure out that: hey, people want 3+devices each (it will take them a long time to figure this out), it will take them another 5 years to figure out how to deal with this situation (the networks aren't setup to deal with this).

This is only true for some stuck-up markets (like US). Take a look here. Yota day: 90RUR/24h (about $3 for a single day - and yes, you can use it for a day then stop). You only need to rent Yota Egg - and off you go. Often you can borrow said egg from your friend if you'll ask nicely...

It makes no sense to offer permanent 3G/4G for cheap devices: it can easily double or triple their price right now. But few years down the road? It's different story. I think in the next 5 years we'll see support for such activity even in US, but no, not today.


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Why do you think it's useless?

Posted Nov 16, 2010 18:01 UTC (Tue) by jmm82 (guest, #59425) [Link] (1 responses)

Virgin mobile(http://www.virginmobileusa.com/mobile-broadband/) has similar plans in the U.S.

No contract and you can buy a contract in 10 days 100 megs of data in 10 days intervals.

MertoPCS has similar plans.

All I was saying is having the option for a 3G/4G connection that can be shared with other devices is going to be important. It could be over usb or bluetooth.

One issue with tethering over a phone is:
1. it uses a lot of phone battery
2. It is annoying if you actually want to use your phone.

I work with cellular for a living. Right now the carriers are trying to figure out how to balance the cost of running their networks and price it accordingly to meet the vast bandwidth needs of customers.

Back in the day(2006) you could buy a monthly plan from most the U.S. carriers and get unlimited data for a monthly fee($60). I have set up systems that were streaming 5 gigs of data a day. This can take down a whole tower. The carriers realized this and put limits to protect their networks. The carriers would just over subscribe the networks with unlimited plans and the system would go to sh@t. Now they realize there needs to be a better system.

Why do you think it's useless?

Posted Nov 16, 2010 18:34 UTC (Tue) by martinfick (subscriber, #4455) [Link]

You're right, it is not useless. I missspoke. :(

I was focusing on the fact that I believe that it is not necessary to have 3G built into the devices themselves for ubiquity. But having the ability to add a dongle is certainly useful (and perhaps required). In fact, it is likely now much more useful then built in 3G since it is easier to transfer a dongle from one device to another than it is to transfer a SIM card.

No doubt that tethering is not perfect, but for many uses it beats and is more flexible than a second data plan. It inherently serializes all of your devices through one point (which you seem to agree is important). Don't forget that tethering can also be done through USB, saving the energy of wifi usage all while charging the phone. In this way, it would turn your phone into the USB dongle. :) Not to mention that any current inconvenience of tethering (phone calls) is something that could be easily overcome if tethering were seen as a "good thing" by all parties.

Another one of your points is good: carriers in the US do have oversell issues, and they seem to currently hate tethering for this reason. However, once they realize that people will need access with more than one device and that most will be unwilling to pay for a plan per device, tethering will become the simplest solution due to its built in serialization. Without tethering, in order to offer a multi device per person plan (which I am claiming is paramount in the very near future due to multi tablet per user ubiquity), the carriers will need to implement a physical or network level serialization solution across devices. This is not likely easy and I suspect would take at least a decade to implement. Instead, I predict that the carriers will wake up to the realities (and simple benefits to them) of tethering (although, perhaps a bit late in the game). They will have to charge a bit more per plan and increase their network capacities and take advantage of the builtin serialization in tethering.


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