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Open Standards in Europe: FSFE responds to BSA letter

Open Standards in Europe: FSFE responds to BSA letter

Posted Oct 19, 2010 15:12 UTC (Tue) by FlorianMueller (guest, #32048)
Parent article: Open Standards in Europe: FSFE responds to BSA letter

I just published my view on how to overcome the impasse that this EIF (European Interoperability Framework) process appears to have hit. In a Twittersation today it became clear that there are ways to make FRAND licensing work for FOSS. Also, focusing just on royalties doesn't make sense since the "four freedoms" are about more than that.


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Open Standards in Europe: FSFE responds to BSA letter

Posted Oct 19, 2010 17:41 UTC (Tue) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link]

So the "huge lump of money" required to use standards like H.264 is not a huge barrier of entry? Do we really want those in open standards?

Suppose Sun/Oracle has licensed some patents for OO.o. What happens with LibreOffice?

Open Standards in Europe: FSFE responds to BSA letter

Posted Oct 19, 2010 21:12 UTC (Tue) by roc (subscriber, #30627) [Link]

"It [royalty-free requirement] runs counter to how the ICT sector has defined open standards for a long time." It varies. Many standards organizations have accepted royalty-free as a requirement. Don't destroy our progress there.

"Red Hat is probably the most dishonest one of the proponents of that "royalty-free" dogma. It entered into at least one -- more likely two and possibly even more than two -- patent licensing deals under which it paid royalties to patent holders, still distributes the related software under GPLv2." It's not dishonest if they purchased patent licenses for all downstream recipients of their software.

"If Red Hat can pay royalties to other patent holders, I can't see why it can't do a license deal with MPEG LA." Presumably because MPEG LA, like most other patent holders, won't offer a license that will cover all downstream recipients (at least, not at an affordable price).

"Canonical ships its Linux distribution called Ubuntu with MP3 and several other proprietary formats." No significant free software license, not even GPLv3, restricts "mere aggregation", so any Linux distributor can ship MP3 software without violating licenses. They just can't deliver genuine freedom to their users.

"It doesn't make sense to narrow the debate to an aspect that's actually a non-issue." Royalty requirements --- except for very unusual situations where one licensee can sublicense to all downstream recipients --- destroy software freedom. They are very definitely an issue; you can only declare them a non-issue if you don't care about software freedom. Therefore, I have to conclude that you don't care about software freedom.

I think you owe it to the community to clarify your position here. I think you need to explain to everyone that software freedom doesn't matter to you, and that your only goal is to ensure that we can continue to develop and use software with most of the popular open-source licenses.

Open Standards in Europe: FSFE responds to BSA letter

Posted Oct 20, 2010 3:27 UTC (Wed) by AndreE (guest, #60148) [Link]

No offense, but LWN isn't your personal advertising platform. It's bad enough having to wade through the noise every time you deign to comment on here, but after these often pedantic arguments you try to direct me to your blog.

You weren't named specifically in this article, and it is not specifically related to you. You are not the only observer interested in these matters, and I don't see any other bloggers coming on here spruiking their latests articles.

While I appreciate (despite the noise) your contribution to the comments section in general, please realise that if I wanted to keep abreast of your latest writings, I would be on your blog, not on LWN.

Thanks

Twittersation?

Posted Oct 24, 2010 22:18 UTC (Sun) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link] (1 responses)

My fellow LWN readers were too kind to let it pass, but I cannot. So you had an interesting conversation on twitter, and you regularly shorten this kind of happening to "twittersation" to make it sound cool. Well, it isn't. Sorry.

Twittersation?

Posted Oct 24, 2010 23:36 UTC (Sun) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

That's not even the most ugly neologism I've seen this month. (But it is pretty ugly.)


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