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What Could You Do With a $35 Tablet? (NetworkWorld)

The media has been buzzing about a prototype tablet from India. This article in NetworkWorld is one of many covering a device that may be available in 2011. "The $35 tablet prototype from India will run a variation of the open source Linux operating system. It has 2Gb of RAM, but no internal storage--relying on a removable memory card. The device has a USB port, and built-in Wi-Fi connectivity. Seems like reasonable enough specs--especially for $35. On the software side, the $35 tablet has a PDF reader, multimedia player, video conferencing, Web browser, and word processor."

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What Could You Do With a $35 Tablet? (NetworkWorld)

Posted Jul 27, 2010 22:08 UTC (Tue) by darkwyrm (guest, #69268) [Link] (1 responses)

My take? It would be a great educational tool for my computer students and a tool cost-effective enough to make my boss take a second look at something other than M$ Office's crap. I'll probably have one for my personal use when it's available, too.

What Could You Do With a $35 Tablet? (NetworkWorld)

Posted Jul 28, 2010 0:09 UTC (Wed) by Tara_Li (guest, #26706) [Link]

Indeed - will we be able to buy these here in the States? I haven't seen full specs on one yet, but seriously - even for $50, it sounds like a great deal! As long as the hardware is solidly open, we can let the geeks worry about building the software repository. Ok, it's not likely to run full-screen HDTV - but it'd put most of the e-readers out of business pretty quick!

What Could You Do With a $35 Tablet? (NetworkWorld)

Posted Jul 28, 2010 0:20 UTC (Wed) by ClarkMills (guest, #11490) [Link]

Security:

If you work with your data off the device and you don't have any credentials cached on the device then the misplacement or destruction of your device will hurt somewhat less.

Can it run Android?

Posted Jul 28, 2010 1:02 UTC (Wed) by hathawsh (guest, #11289) [Link] (2 responses)

Android is much more optimized for touchscreens than GNU/Linux distributions.

Can it run Android?

Posted Jul 28, 2010 1:06 UTC (Wed) by hathawsh (guest, #11289) [Link] (1 responses)

Never mind, another article says it already runs Android:

http://androidos.in/2010/07/35-android-tablet-is-here-in-...

Can it run Android?

Posted Jul 28, 2010 5:52 UTC (Wed) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link]

And their source is?

$35 of hardware components

Posted Jul 28, 2010 8:54 UTC (Wed) by Alterego (guest, #55989) [Link] (7 responses)

I read somewhere (sorry i forgot where) that it was $35 of components, this is not $35 retail price. Also the device is for Indian schools, not sure that it will be available for the public, and for sure it would be at a higher price (without state subvention).

Still it is a very good news, and a far better tool than olpc.

$35 of hardware components

Posted Jul 28, 2010 9:11 UTC (Wed) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link] (3 responses)

Why would you consider it "far better than the OLPC" (apart from the price)?

$35 of hardware components

Posted Jul 28, 2010 9:26 UTC (Wed) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Negroponte is not involved? ;}

$35 of hardware components

Posted Aug 7, 2010 17:17 UTC (Sat) by Alterego (guest, #55989) [Link] (1 responses)

I find it is better than olpc, because
* it is based on ordinary components
* it does not try to reinvent the wheel (sugar, net)
* it does what it is supposed to do : provinding a cheap IT solution

$35 of hardware components

Posted Aug 7, 2010 20:29 UTC (Sat) by dlang (guest, #313) [Link]

I agree with you about Sugar, but as for everything else,

the only thing that OLPC used that was not an "ordinary component" was the display. And I think that the display was one of the bigger successes.

the mesh networking that OLPC supports (note that this is _supports_ not requires) is new, and didn't end up working that well, but the systems also support traditional networking as well.

from a hardware point of view the OLPC provided a much cheaper solution than anything available at the time it was designed. This proved the model and companies copies the basic idea, creating the netbook market.

I expect that the same thing would happen to this if it can actually be built.

if this is $35 of hardware components (and some things are indicating that it is actually substantially higher), then it's production cost is probably close to $100 (more in small quantities). In massive quantities this can drop noticably, but it will still be $50-$70 manufacturing cost. Then when you add all the other costs that need to be covered, you are probably not talking about something that is that much cheaper than the OLPC.

$35 of hardware components

Posted Jul 28, 2010 10:31 UTC (Wed) by nye (subscriber, #51576) [Link] (2 responses)

This still sounds fairly implausible. If we look at retail prices, the RAM *alone* would cost more than that, even getting the cheapest stuff available. Is the wholesale price really so much lower that you could get the entire rest of the machine with the difference?

$35 of hardware components

Posted Jul 28, 2010 12:09 UTC (Wed) by Duncan (guest, #6647) [Link] (1 responses)

This is the first time I've seen the memory specified...

Note that TFA specifies "2 Gb" (small b) of RAM. Small-b implies bit, not byte, which would make it a quarter gigabyte, 256 MB.

That should fit the $35 budget rather better than a full 2 GB and sounds far more realistic than a full 2 GB to me. But as I said, this is the first time I've seen any sort of real specs at all, memory or anything else, so it's just the single source, along with the "personal gut realism test", that I'm going on.

$35 of hardware components

Posted Jul 28, 2010 13:23 UTC (Wed) by martin.langhoff (guest, #61417) [Link]

Good take on the "2Gb"angle :-)

They have not released specs, and the pricing is very suspect. From experience on certain project I work on, the money they indicate is not enough for the components, not by a large margin even accounting for "old" chipsets and lowered costs in a year or two.

Designing and making something child-proof costs money. Good plastics that don't "chip", little bumpers here and there, safe and long-lived power supplies and batteries... all parts that add mfg cost (but save heaps in breakage and health concerns once fielded).

The challenges of an unprotected screen on a tablet for kids are self evident -- I've personally seen a few grown men cry at the sight of their smashed iPad and iPhone glass LCD.

Finally, the gear that they have in hand in the pictures looks exactly like "reference implementation" gear that various vendors have been showing to computer makers.

Hard to say what's vapour and what's substance but we haven't seen much of the latter so far.

Don't count on it

Posted Jul 28, 2010 13:39 UTC (Wed) by dwheeler (guest, #1216) [Link] (2 responses)

I'd love to see this, but I don't think this is likely to come out, at least not within the next few years. See ComputerWorld's "Why the $35 tablet will never exist: Why does the media fall for the same hoax again and again?". Please prove me wrong :-).

Don't count on it

Posted Jul 28, 2010 17:01 UTC (Wed) by hppnq (guest, #14462) [Link]

Breaking news! Blogger uses amazing analytic powers, finds that politicians are liars and Chinese rule the world!

QED. ;-)

Don't count on it

Posted Jul 28, 2010 18:30 UTC (Wed) by steffen780 (guest, #68142) [Link]

The question "Why does the media fall for the same hoax again and again?" is easy to answer - because "informing the public with at least some remote level of reliability" is not part of their job description. Their job description is either:
- to make money for their masters in cushy offices in some megacorporation or
- to spread propaganda for their masters in cushy offices in some megacorporation.

That's what makes LWN so great - their job is to actually inform us, the readers, rather than to misinform or distract us.

What Could You Do With a $35 Tablet? (NetworkWorld)

Posted Jul 29, 2010 0:46 UTC (Thu) by cpeterso (guest, #305) [Link]

Wired.com covered some non-vaporware devices that use 8-bit processors and plug into a TV:

* the "Humane Reader" is a $20 device that can hold 5000 books and an offline version of Wikipedia
* and Playpower.org is writing educational software for a $12 Chinese keyboard computer with a 6502 processor (used by Apple ][ and C64)

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/07/humane-wikipedia-r...


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