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OpenSolaris governing board threatens dissolution (The H)

OpenSolaris governing board threatens dissolution (The H)

Posted Jul 15, 2010 1:53 UTC (Thu) by jonabbey (guest, #2736)
In reply to: OpenSolaris governing board threatens dissolution (The H) by ewan
Parent article: OpenSolaris governing board threatens dissolution (The H)

I see what you did there. ;-)


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Posted Jul 15, 2010 18:07 UTC (Thu) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link] (5 responses)

Care to explain to the unenlightened?

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Posted Jul 15, 2010 18:52 UTC (Thu) by jonabbey (guest, #2736) [Link] (4 responses)

It's a diss of Jorg Schilling, the iconoclast behind the original Unix optical disc writing software, and prominent Solaris-is-better-than-Linux fanboy. ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Schilling

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Posted Jul 18, 2010 12:26 UTC (Sun) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (3 responses)

He's on the OpenSolaris governing board? So much for anything that requires said board to negotiate with anyone, then. I have never in my life encountered anyone worse at negotiation or diplomacy.

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Posted Jul 20, 2010 12:33 UTC (Tue) by nye (subscriber, #51576) [Link] (2 responses)

>I have never in my life encountered anyone worse at negotiation or diplomacy.

Ulrich Drepper?

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Posted Jul 20, 2010 13:44 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (1 responses)

No. Ulrich *can* sometimes be convinced that his position is wrong. It's just very difficult (probably a good attribute for a maintainer of something as critical as glibc), and an extremely unpleasant experience (because he doesn't know what politeness is for), but that doesn't mean he's unpersuadable. He's hard to work with but not impossible. glibc's community is unhealthy but it sort of exists, even if much of it has had to quasi-fork off to stay out of Ulrich's way. Ulrich does not appear to object to the existence of eglibc, so this compromise appears stable.

Jorg Schilling, as far as I can tell, is completely unpersuadable. I've never seen him reverse his position on *anything*, even if it is something that is outright loony or has been rendered completely wrong by the passage of time. I suspect that his much-laughed-at devotion to referring to devices by SCSI IDs is an example of the latter: back in the late 80s this was probably the right decision, as nearly all CD burners worthy of the name were horrifically expensive SCSI-only devices and OSes had few other ways to address them, but when better device frameworks emerged -- in Solaris first! -- his mind was made up and could not change. By the time he had to invent fake SCSI IDs to account for the fact that nearly all CD burners weren't actually SCSI anymore his position had moved, gradually, from reasonable to demented. Plus, his attitude to forks is best described as 'extremely jealous'. It's the last part that makes his software best avoided, in my opinion.

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Posted Jul 20, 2010 15:13 UTC (Tue) by nye (subscriber, #51576) [Link]

That was an excellent summary.


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