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Zimmerman: We’ve packaged all of the free software…what now?

Zimmerman: We’ve packaged all of the free software…what now?

Posted Jul 7, 2010 15:25 UTC (Wed) by xxiao (guest, #9631)
Parent article: Zimmerman: We’ve packaged all of the free software…what now?

don't get his point at all...except for deb there are rpm, ipk, apk and so on, there are also LFS and Gentoo, the eco-system is pretty diverse and you can always find some distribution and/or framework to start with, in fact we may already to too many choices. ubuntu is just one case in this big picture, what is he worrying about?


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Zimmerman: We’ve packaged all of the free software…what now?

Posted Jul 7, 2010 18:36 UTC (Wed) by Frej (guest, #4165) [Link] (3 responses)

The sad part of packaging systems is that they remove direct contact of those who produce the product (mozilla) to their actual customers.

Ie, the app producer don't have a choice of actually supporting their users. And for users it's quite disruptive to update everything 6 months to get a new version of say... chrome and rhythmbox.

Not always...

Posted Jul 7, 2010 21:12 UTC (Wed) by marduk (subscriber, #3831) [Link]

> The sad part of packaging systems is that they remove direct contact of
> those who produce the product (mozilla) to their actual customers.

> Ie, the app producer don't have a choice of actually supporting their
> users.

OTOH if you need support for how one application behaves with another, or with the OS itself, which the app producer may have little or no knowledge of, then that's where you need the support from the package distributer. This is frequently the case in my experience. Also there's nothing keeping you from submitting a bug to the product's bug tracking system. Add this to the fact that many people are actually paying for support from the distributer and not the producer, then it also makes more sense to contact the distributer. In the same way that I don't have to hunt down the producer of the of the battery in my laptop when it's faulty.. I contact the the laptop's manufacturer because that's where I got the battery.

> And for users it's quite disruptive to update everything 6 months to
> get a new version of say... chrome and rhythmbox.

That's pretty distro-specific. Some distros don't have arbitrary time spans on package updates. :) Or you could always roll your own.

Zimmerman: We’ve packaged all of the free software…what now?

Posted Jul 7, 2010 21:35 UTC (Wed) by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458) [Link]

You mean that is the happy part... as a developer I certainly don't want to have to deal with Open Solaris, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, SUSE Linux Enterprise System, Fedora, Debian, Gentoo, and the list goes on forever. On top of struggling with Windows and MacOS du jour, and a few versions back.

Zimmerman: We’ve packaged all of the free software…what now?

Posted Jul 8, 2010 7:21 UTC (Thu) by niner (subscriber, #26151) [Link]

"And for users it's quite disruptive to update everything 6 months to get a new version of say... chrome and rhythmbox."

Are there still distros out there that don't have repositories with upgraded applications? If I need a newer version of an application than my distribution provides, I just head over to http://packages.opensuse-community.org/ and find a repository containing it. No need to wait 6 or 8 months.


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