Kees Cook: yay for barriers

Posted May 18, 2010 8:23 UTC (Tue) by tajyrink (subscriber, #2750)
In reply to: Kees Cook: yay for barriers by lkundrak
Parent article: Kees Cook: yay for barriers

It's not, or at least it shouldn't be the Fedora of course itself, but the individuals. What I like in Ubuntu is the Code of Conduct that helps to steer active Ubuntu community people towards friendliness among else. I find it unfortunate that some other communities tolerate more of the unfriendly behavior from their active participants, to the extent that it might (at times) become even part of the accepted community culture to bash certain other parties.

When high profile developers take juvenile stabs at other distros/communities/persons, it tells me a bit sad story about what's allowed in the community. Free software has a long history of also unfriendliness and exclusion of new people, and Ubuntu was in my opinion the only big, bright light that started a change in 2004 and onwards. I like also Fedora's new "Freedom, friends, features, first" thing, since it has also the "friends" there. And code of conduct like things have now started spreading more as well.

Kees Cook: yay for barriers

Posted May 18, 2010 14:04 UTC (Tue) by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458) [Link] (1 responses)

Oh, come on. Each large enough community contains its share of juvenile (acting) members; each of us has acted childish from time to time (and regretted it later). Please don't generalize this one dumb remark and ensuing flamefest as the normal (or even tolerated) behavior of the many people who work on the kernel or on a distro, be this Ubuntu, Debian or Fedora.

Disclaimer: I'm a long time Fedora user, and a Fedora Ambassador.

Kees Cook: yay for barriers

Posted May 20, 2010 6:16 UTC (Thu) by tajyrink (subscriber, #2750) [Link]

True. Surely describing it as accepted culture was over the top, and juvenile things happen in every user community, no matter what policies. I do think highly active, contributing community members should be expected to have somewhat higher standards, and maybe code of conducts and such help in this regard.

I haven't recently seen any truly active Ubuntu contributors calling other distributions with names like "loldora" or such, but it probably cannot be that it wouldn't ever happen.