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Linux lab hires second guru (News.com)

News.com reports that Andrew Morton is also joining the Open-Source Development Lab and also names him as the primary 2.6 kernel maintainer. "Although OSDL will fund Morton to work full time on the 2.6 kernel, he'll retain his principal engineer title at Digeo, which makes set-top boxes."

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Linux lab hires second guru (News.com)

Posted Jul 3, 2003 16:12 UTC (Thu) by trutkin (guest, #3919) [Link] (5 responses)

I'm delighted to hear this. Andrew Morton is the guy who does the lowlatency patches for
2.4.x. These patches are what make linux audio possible. Hopefully, this position will let
him maintain the patches for as long as necessary.

Linux lab hires second guru (News.com)

Posted Jul 3, 2003 19:21 UTC (Thu) by nas (subscriber, #17) [Link]

Andrew Morton does a lot more than lowlatency. Over the last year he has done an amazing amount of work on Linux 2.5. I suspect a large fraction of the patches getting accepted by Linus go through his -mm tree first. He is also one of the more active people on the linux-kernel mailing list and is quick to respond to bug reports. As a Linux user, I'm very happy that he is on our side. :-)

Linux lab hires second guru (News.com)

Posted Jul 3, 2003 19:57 UTC (Thu) by einstein (guest, #2052) [Link] (3 responses)

Yes I found andrew's low latency patches were a great boost to my quake 3 arena performance, allowing me to kick serious win32 butt in internet play - and I'm glad to see that red hat ships a mini version of his low latency patch in current kernels, I appreciate that a lot.

As nice a hack as the low latency patches are, they won't be needed in 2.5/2.6, since it was designed to be low latency by nature, eliminating the need to add tons of rescheduling points through the kernel code, which also need to be maintained since things shift and the rescheduling points need to be moved around to remain effective. I'm impressed with the snappiness of the 2.5 desktop, and am looking forward to some serious gaming and multimedia on 2.6

Linux lab hires second guru (News.com)

Posted Jul 3, 2003 22:43 UTC (Thu) by elanthis (guest, #6227) [Link] (2 responses)

You really have no clue what you're talking about, do you?

The low latency "hacks" by Andrew Morton is the same work in the 2.5 tree. It's no different than the 2.4 patches, except the 2.5 version is more pervasive, and the rest of the kernel better tuned for it, along with other speedups (like pre-emption).

Linux lab hires second guru (News.com)

Posted Jul 5, 2003 18:08 UTC (Sat) by einstein (guest, #2052) [Link] (1 responses)

I'm not sure what your problem is, or why you are so threatened by what I said, "elanthis" - and why you feel you must insult me...

The low latency patches are essentially a fix for 2.4 that isn't needed in 2.5, which is preemptive, and low latency in the core design.

I've tested and benchmarked low latency and preemption patches on 2.4, have you?

I've run and benchmarked 2.5 kernels, have you?

I've contributed kernel patches, have you?

Preempt and Low-Latency patches

Posted Jul 7, 2003 13:37 UTC (Mon) by drathos (guest, #6454) [Link]

His point is that the low-latency and preempt "core design" that you are talking about started out as those "hacks" for 2.4. Linus decided to include them early on in the 2.5 development (RML's preempt was included in 2.5.4, Andrew Morton's low-latency was included a bit later). Yes 2.5 is better, but that is because more low-latency work can be done on 2.5 because of other changes that were made.

lets hope he worries about mips a bit more in 2.6

Posted Jul 3, 2003 18:38 UTC (Thu) by johnjones (guest, #5462) [Link] (1 responses)

since the moxi is built apon a mips32 core ( XILLEON chip ) I would hope that 2.6 would
have support for XILLEON out of the door...
(after all he is priciple engineer)

what does it say that currently it does not...

keeping that stuff secret are we ?

not great

hope it improves


JJ

lets hope he worries about mips a bit more in 2.6

Posted Jul 3, 2003 18:54 UTC (Thu) by busterb (subscriber, #560) [Link]

Are you sure? According to the website:
"The architecture is built upon a powerful x86 processor, a gaming-class 3D graphics engine, analog, digital and High Definition tuners, a hard drive, and a DOCSIS cable modem."

Linux lab hires second guru (News.com)

Posted Jul 4, 2003 0:13 UTC (Fri) by cpeterso (guest, #305) [Link] (1 responses)


Where does OSDL get its funding? How many kernel developers can it afford to hire full-time?

Linux lab hires second guru (News.com)

Posted Jul 4, 2003 3:27 UTC (Fri) by frazier (guest, #3060) [Link]

In the press release about hiring Brian Grega, "former vice president of Business Development at MontaVista and former vice president of North American Sales at LynuxWorks", they mention:

About OSDL

OSDL - home to Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux - is dedicated to accelerating the growth and adoption of Linux in the enterprise. Founded in 2000 and supported by a global consortium of IT industry leaders, OSDL is a non-profit organization that provides state-of the-art computing and test facilities in the United States and Japan available to developers around the world. OSDL sponsors include Alcatel, Cisco, Computer Associates, Dell, Ericsson, Force Computers, Fujitsu, HP, Hitachi, IBM, Intel, Linuxcare, Miracle Linux Corporation, Mitsubishi Electric, MontaVista Software, NEC Corporation, Nokia, Red Hat, SuSE, TimeSys, Toshiba, Transmeta Corporation and VA Software. Visit OSDL on the Web at www.osdl.org.

About the SCO Group

Posted Jul 5, 2003 21:53 UTC (Sat) by llywrch (guest, #9903) [Link]

Cohen says that SCO is still a member, but in a presentation Tim Witham gave to the Portland Linux/Unix Group Thursday night (listed at http://www.pdxlinux.org), Withram stated that SCO allowed their membership to lapse shortly after MacBride became CEO.

Obviously, both of them is relying on what he remembers. I wonder whose memory is the less reliable.

Geoff


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