The 2.6.32 kernel is out
Posted Dec 3, 2009 15:27 UTC (Thu)
by sbergman27 (guest, #10767)
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http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/
and he says:
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http://lwn.net/Articles/332190/
Boot speed being GKH's main pitch point for the "feature". I'm just a lowly sysadmin, and
People sometimes criticize Linux development as running around in circles, ripping out and
Posted Dec 3, 2009 15:31 UTC (Thu)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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WTF? Devtmpfs does not 'rip out' anything. Final /dev tree is still managed by udev, as usual.
Posted Dec 3, 2009 17:28 UTC (Thu)
by dmk (guest, #50141)
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and as stated in another comment: udev still manages as before (rights/permissions). it just dosn't create the node if it is already there..
the only point that could be made against devtmpfs would be, that the kernel has to have no say in device-permissions and even default-device permissions are too much policy decisions... but i don't support this view.
if one feels strongly about devtmpfs... it is possible to just say no at configure time....
Posted Dec 3, 2009 18:43 UTC (Thu)
by arjan (subscriber, #36785)
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yes boot speed is a red herring (and that is the ONLY thing I responsed about); the other reasons stand on their own.
Posted Dec 4, 2009 4:47 UTC (Fri)
by SEJeff (guest, #51588)
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devtmpfs is kind of like another tool in a swiss army knife. Just because you
Posted Dec 4, 2009 19:45 UTC (Fri)
by kjp (guest, #39639)
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Given all the other crap the kernel puts by default in sysfs, it seems like a no brainer to me to also create a default device node.
Posted Dec 4, 2009 12:31 UTC (Fri)
by Tuxie (guest, #47191)
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(This is assuming that it actually includes the latest alsa-drivers)
Posted Dec 4, 2009 17:06 UTC (Fri)
by crimsun (guest, #13750)
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Posted Dec 4, 2009 23:03 UTC (Fri)
by Tuxie (guest, #47191)
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Posted Dec 4, 2009 12:56 UTC (Fri)
by ejmarkow (guest, #56170)
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Posted Dec 4, 2009 21:42 UTC (Fri)
by kjp (guest, #39639)
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Kernel newbies with another great job.
The 2.6.32 kernel is out
This devtmpfs is not need to boot fast. Really.
This is a workaround for a certain distros crappy mkinitrd basically, and nothing more; if
you do the initrd correct (or if you don't use an initrd at all), you don't need this "solution"
and you'll even boot faster....
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not a kernel developer. But I'm not at all convinced that the current methods need to be
ripped out and replaced with this. And I wouldn't be even if it did save a second or two at
boot. Fix what we have, like Arjan suggests.
replacing subsystems, willy-nilly. And in this particular case, that criticism looks valid.
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ripped out and replaced with this."
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purpose_ distro. This especially holds true because he is the rockstar who
helped Moblin boot in 5 seconds on very specific hardware. Moblin is no
Fedora, it is no Ubuntu, or opensuse, etc. He thinks that modular kernels are
fail because modprobe is slow. Besides more TLBs for separate modules, they
make perfect sense for general purpose distros.
don't always use the can opener doesn't mean someone else doesn't and won't.
Them using it more than you doesn't make them wrong. Each achieves the same
end goal. That being said, Arjan is certainly doing amazing things for Linux
as a whole and hopefully he keeps it up.
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