Nokia ports Qt to Maemo 5 (the Inquirer)

[Posted October 9, 2009 by ris]

The Inquirer covers Nokia's port of Qt to Maemo 5. "According to Nokia, there are currently community created ports available, which the company used to help create the official upcoming port. The port itself will be based on Qt's upcoming version 4.6, a beta version of which is expected to be launched next week at the Qt Developer Days conference in Munich."

Nokia ports Qt to Maemo 5 (the Inquirer)

Posted Oct 10, 2009 4:48 UTC (Sat) by DDevine (guest, #60717) [Link] (1 responses)

Maemo is basically just Debian, so I'm not sure what the big deal is exactly. Community had already done a good job.

Nokia ports Qt to Maemo 5 (the Inquirer)

Posted Oct 10, 2009 5:48 UTC (Sat) by 0660 (guest, #29706) [Link]

There's a nice two minute video about it in YouTube. I think most of the work has been enabling special effects using OpenGL ES and making the widgets look more Maemo like.

Is Gnome dead?

Posted Oct 10, 2009 9:20 UTC (Sat) by alonso (guest, #2828) [Link] (11 responses)

With qt that switched to LGPL and gnome that has more and more problem with
mono and not have
a clear route. I think we will see distribution switch to qt/kde? What do you
think?

Is Gnome dead?

Posted Oct 10, 2009 15:09 UTC (Sat) by tajyrink (subscriber, #2750) [Link] (10 responses)

That this is another misguided attempt at starting a long thread that is not related to the news item.

Is Gnome dead?

Posted Oct 10, 2009 17:00 UTC (Sat) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (8 responses)

Isn't it obvious to you that when one distro chooses to switch to Qt on
one specialized device, that GNOME is entirely dead, even if dozens of
distros are still using it?

(No, not to me either.)

Is Gnome dead?

Posted Oct 10, 2009 18:59 UTC (Sat) by Kit (guest, #55925) [Link] (7 responses)

>Isn't it obvious to you that when one distro chooses to switch
>to Qt on one specialized device [...]

Not just any distribution... but a distribution ran by the makers of Qt. Now, if *Red Hat* switched to Qt/KDE... then the Gnome developers should get very worried (especially the ones employed by RH).

Is Gnome dead?

Posted Oct 11, 2009 8:01 UTC (Sun) by epa (subscriber, #39769) [Link] (6 responses)

Mark Shuttleworth has suggested that GNOME itself switch to Qt (instead of GTK+), which on the face of it doesn't sound like a bad idea.

Is Gnome dead?

Posted Oct 11, 2009 10:04 UTC (Sun) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link] (5 responses)

You are overstating what he said and besides it would involve throwing away the very core of GNOME. If it doesn't sound like a bad idea, how about KDE switching to using GTK? Does that sound like a good idea as well? I am curious to understand why people think it is reasonable.

Is Gnome dead?

Posted Oct 11, 2009 14:52 UTC (Sun) by liljencrantz (guest, #28458) [Link]

Near as I can tell, Ubuntu could switch to QT by a simple mv Ubuntu Gubuntu; mv Kubuntu Ubuntu. Sure, in order to reduce the pain, they'd probably do a lot of work with making themes match, tweaking a few apps to look more like their GTK workalike, maybe even porting a few common apps to QT, etc., but it would not be nearly as difficult as switching KDE to using a different toolkit. I don't think it will happen, just saying that the option actually exists.

Is Gnome dead?

Posted Oct 11, 2009 20:50 UTC (Sun) by jospoortvliet (guest, #33164) [Link] (1 responses)

Say you're a airplane transport company with your own support staff to
keep the planes in working condition. Going from eg a propellor plane to a
jet would mean big changes, but at least it'd be worth it. Going back to
balloons, on the other hand, is bad in any possible way... :D

Is Gnome dead?

Posted Oct 11, 2009 21:58 UTC (Sun) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

It isn't mv X Y but rm -rf X if you throw away GTK. I assume noone thinks the plan is really feasible at all. Otherwise those advocating for it would have done it or atleast taken some real steps.

Is Gnome dead?

Posted Oct 12, 2009 13:43 UTC (Mon) by jond (subscriber, #37669) [Link] (1 responses)

I think the problem isn't defined clearly enough to be discussed. GTK and QT
are a collection of different things. GTK includes a rendering framework
which is pluggable, and indeed there is a QT engine plugin, or at least
there used to be). I used it for a little while as I tend to prefer GNOME
and GTK applications to KDE ones but I prefer the appearance and speed of
QT's rendering. It proved to not be particularly stable / didn't play well
with certain themes etc. which I suppose was inevitable. But, should there
be a decision for GNOME to migrate to QT, it might be a first step.

Is Gnome dead?

Posted Oct 12, 2009 20:21 UTC (Mon) by drag (guest, #31333) [Link]

The important thing for Gnome is not the toolkit, but the applications.

That is the most important thing for any platform and is why KDE4 crapped out
early on. No apps means completely worthless.

So unless you want to have the Ubuntu desktop be a completely unusable for
the 3 years while people sort out the mess of dropping support for 90% of the
applications that people use on Ubuntu then it is probably a better idea to
just keep improving Gnome incrementally.

Is Gnome dead?

Posted Oct 13, 2009 9:54 UTC (Tue) by gevaerts (subscriber, #21521) [Link]

>That this is another misguided attempt at starting a long thread that is
>not related to the news item.

I wish you weren't right, and that it hadn't worked so well...