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      Posted Aug 7, 2009 7:33 UTC (Fri)
                               by BILLY (guest, #60098)
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This press release from Sebastian Kugler draws the line. This KDE B.S. is a joke, to say the least. The KDE people lost it with 4.0.0, and their example of Software Engineering (burn all your users)? 
From 10 years experience as a computer scientist using Linux, the OS is a mess and total joke. Blame Linux Torvalds or whoever, but Linux is a broken mess -- getting worse by the month. 
OK, let's pretend KDE is "innovative" and GNOME is "functional"? Or maybe the Linux kernel wasn't just hacked to deletion? Maybe my computer science books have lied to me, but Linux is a bad joke? 
 
     
    
      Posted Aug 7, 2009 8:04 UTC (Fri)
                               by cgorac (guest, #35767)
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Could you please elaborate on this (your "10 years of experience as a computer scientist" and how exactly you find Linux "a joke")?  I'm pretty sure you're just clueless spammer, but still - maybe there exist slight chance for all of us (Torvalds included) to learn something valuable here?
      
           
     
    
      Posted Aug 7, 2009 8:45 UTC (Fri)
                               by khim (subscriber, #9252)
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       He comes from the academic standpoint - from the ivory tower and so can 
happily be ignored. Remember the quote? There are people who design an operation systems and there are 
people who make the operating systems. If you want somthing
grant-worthy, then yes, Linux is boring and basically a joke, but if you want 
actual usable system, then story is different. 
     
    
      Posted Aug 8, 2009 13:32 UTC (Sat)
                               by oak (guest, #2786)
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Wait...!  What if the commenter is referring to the promise of graphical  
As to Unix Desktop innovation, I'd like to see some graphical automation  
     
    
      Posted Aug 8, 2009 17:34 UTC (Sat)
                               by nix (subscriber, #2304)
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      Posted Aug 7, 2009 9:05 UTC (Fri)
                               by sbakker (subscriber, #58443)
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Do you think KDE and GNOME are bloated? Have you tried XFCE? Fvwm2? Icewm? Ratpoison? 
Can you please explain what [your perception of] the state of the Linux kernel (or do you mean the GNU userland) has to do with [your perception of] the state of the desktop environments? Or is it FOSS in general? 
I don't know what you've been doing with your time in these ten years of experience, but I first used KDE on Solaris around (I think it was) 1998, and boy, it was a big improvement over CDE. Since then, things have only improved as far as I can see. 
Yes, none of the systems mentioned is perfect, and none will be able to please everybody (ever). But, heck, you're a friggin' computer scientist with no less than 10 whole years of experience! Surely you must have an idea of how to do it better? Show us! Working code is the best way to convince us all. 
     
    
      Posted Aug 8, 2009 0:34 UTC (Sat)
                               by cookiem (guest, #50927)
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      Posted Aug 9, 2009 6:32 UTC (Sun)
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      Posted Aug 10, 2009 7:53 UTC (Mon)
                               by muwlgr (guest, #35359)
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    WHAT A JOKE LINUX HAS BECOME
      
WHAT A JOKE LINUX HAS BECOME
      
From 10 years experience as a computer scientist using Linux, the OS is a mess and total joke.
Don't feed the troll
      Among the people who actually design operating systems, the 
debate is essentially over.  Microkernels have won.
Don't feed the troll
      
into the Real World can sometimes be (bitter) disappointments.  Especially 
if one gets stuck into it.
Linux consoles about ten years ago with the nicely modularized KGI (which 
supported only few gfx cards like my old MGA) and only now we're finally 
getting something resembling it?  I'm still annoyed about that... :-)
tool for doing what one can do with pipes etc. on command line.
Don't feed the troll
      
wasn't one of the features copied by Jobs for the Lisa and Mac, and was 
forgotten.
WHAT A JOKE LINUX HAS BECOME
      
WHAT A JOKE LINUX HAS BECOME
      
      Please don't feed the drive-by troll.
      
          Ahem
      WHAT A JOKE LINUX HAS BECOME
      
 
           