Why people don't test development distributions

Posted Jul 7, 2009 12:14 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304)
In reply to: Why people don't test development distributions by malor
Parent article: Why people don't test development distributions

What are you talking about? Modulo one unfortunate ommission (in the release notes, whoops), KDE 4.0 was always, always considered a stable *library* release, i.e. a release for *app developers*.

Now can we finally shut up about KDE 4.0? Nobody wants to hear this skeleton of a horse be flogged yet again.

Why people don't test development distributions

Posted Jul 7, 2009 12:41 UTC (Tue) by malor (guest, #2973) [Link] (1 responses)

ie, if caught with pants down, redefine pants.

Why people don't test development distributions

Posted Jul 7, 2009 13:37 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

My understanding is that 4.0 was meant to be a libraries-are-frozen app-developers-are-go release from long before the actual release date. It's just a shame that everyone was so used to this that they didn't think to mention it in the release notes!

'Redefine' implies post-facto. This is more like 'define'.

Why people don't test development distributions

Posted Jul 7, 2009 13:20 UTC (Tue) by fb (guest, #53265) [Link] (2 responses)

Don't you think it is quite trollish to tell somebody to "shut up about KDE 4.0" during a discussion about testing development distributions?

IMHO KDE-4.0 is an text book example of software release planing and management failure. Should it be kept from being discussed **in the context of release testing and planing** because it embarrasses some? I don't think so.

Why people don't test development distributions

Posted Jul 7, 2009 13:36 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

It's not because it embarrasses people. It's because it's *boring*. We've been over this dead horse until only a pile of bones is left.

Why people don't test development distributions

Posted Jul 9, 2009 22:58 UTC (Thu) by johnflux (guest, #58833) [Link]

As a KDE developer - I agree. The whole KDE 4.0 fiasco was a mess.

But the developers who are embarrassed by it all just keep quiet and get to work trying to make the code better, leaving behind the noisy people who claim that KDE isn't to blame.