Re: No deltarpms in Fedora 11

Posted May 4, 2009 17:59 UTC (Mon) by nevyn (guest, #33129)
In reply to: No deltarpms in Fedora 11 by kragil
Parent article: No deltarpms in Fedora 11

Release and updates are already separate. Separating security vs. other might be interesting, but would require a lot of work on the server side to make sure depsolving still worked. Another fix might be to turn down the firehose :).

Re: No deltarpms in Fedora 11

Posted May 4, 2009 19:36 UTC (Mon) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link] (1 responses)

The firehose....

There is a real tension between use cases when it comes to update policy. The current updates policy isn't perfect, but its rather simple in practise and it boils down to trusting the package maintainers to make their best judgement for the packages they maintain on behalf of their userbase in coordination with upstream project developers. Anecdotally, I've yet to run across user who wants to see less frequency in updates for the packages I maintain (and yes I know I have at least one other user beside myself for each of them :->).

Fedora's got something like 800+ active package maintainers if memory serves, more than half external to Red Hat. They each use their best judgement when it comes to bugfix and enhancement updates. Who's qualified to tell those maintainers they aren't making the best choices for best overall benefit to the userbase of those packages?

Adding complexity by restricting what maintainers are allowed to do with regard to official updates and building a house of cards of semi-official addon repositories for enhancements or bugfixes just makes everything more complex with little benefit to the core mission of Fedora.

-jef

Re: No deltarpms in Fedora 11

Posted May 4, 2009 20:20 UTC (Mon) by nevyn (guest, #33129) [Link]

Of course, it's the same with all distros. ... everyone wants their pet bugs/features fixed/added. They just don't want everyone else's as well :). "yum --security update" and "yum --bz 1234 update" are a god send from the point of view of applying just the fixes you want, but you still need to download all the metadata.