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Re: relatime: update once per day patches (was: ext3 IO latency measurements)

From:  Andrew Morton <akpm-AT-linux-foundation.org>
To:  Frans Pop <elendil-AT-planet.nl>
Subject:  Re: relatime: update once per day patches (was: ext3 IO latency measurements)
Date:  Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:47:33 -0700
Message-ID:  <20090326084733.156c4910.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc:  mingo-AT-elte.hu, tytso-AT-mit.edu, jack-AT-suse.cz, torvalds-AT-linux-foundation.org, alan-AT-lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, arjan-AT-infradead.org, a.p.zijlstra-AT-chello.nl, npiggin-AT-suse.de, jens.axboe-AT-oracle.com, drees76-AT-gmail.com, jesper-AT-krogh.cc, linux-kernel-AT-vger.kernel.org, oleg-AT-redhat.com, roland-AT-redhat.com
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:32:38 +0100 Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl> wrote:

> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:03:12 +0100 Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> >> Why arent the relatime patches upstream?
> > 
> > They have been for ages.
> 
> I assume Ingo means the patches to make relatime update atime at least 
> once per day to ensure better compatibility with apps that do use or rely 
> on access times.
> These patches are already being included by several distros and, FWIW, 
> Debian would like to see them upstream as well because we feel .
> 
> They were last submitted by Matthew Garrett:
> http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/11/27/234
> http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/11/27/235
> 
> Loads of people seem to want this, but even though it's been submitted at 
> least twice and discussed even more often, it never gets anywhere.
> 

Hard-wiring a 24-hour interval into the core VFS for all mounted
filesystems is dumb.

I (and others) pointed out that it would be better to implement this as
a mount option.  That suggestion was met with varying sillinesses and
that is where things stand.



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