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Posted May 15, 2003 11:36 UTC (Thu) by djst (guest, #11214)In reply to: ... by msutherland
Parent article: Christopher Blizzard of mozilla.org Speaks on the Firebird Naming Conflict (MozillaZine)
Nice cross-post. I've already replied to this message elsewhere in this thread.
Posted May 15, 2003 12:28 UTC (Thu)
by msutherland (guest, #11201)
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You are missing the mark entirely. I don't care that the name Mozilla Browser was "all still in flux and may change dramatically (may not happen at all)". The POINT is that if Mozilla Browser was really the product name when the announcement was made on April 14th, 2003... like the lousy liars at Mozilla.org claim... then the headline for such a long-time anticipated announcement would not be: "After months of discussion and further months of legal investigation, we're finally comfortable moving forward with new names. The new name for the Phoenix browser is 'Firebird'. The documentation and product strings will be updated soon. In addition to securing Firebird, we've also got the OK from those contributing legal resources to use the name 'Thunderbird' for a mail client. Hopefully this will be the end of naming legal issues for a while." Do you understand that? Or are you so completely biased that you can't see the forest through the trees? Use your head for crying out loud. I would believe you if the new name announcement on April 14th said something along the lines of this: "The new name for the Phoenix browser is Mozilla Browser, code named 'Firebird'. The new name for the mail client is Mozilla Mail, code named 'Thunderbird'." or... "The new name for the Phoenix browser is Mozilla Browser, with the project name in bugzilla being 'Firebird'. The new name for the mail client is Mozilla Mail, with the project name in Bugzilla being 'Thunderbird'." So when Mozilla.org tries to desperately save face and say that is what they meant... sorry boys, but that canoe is going down the river without a paddle. I didn't say you were a liar. I said you were full of it and that the line you were trying to sell me was bullshit. As far as liars go... the clowns at Mozilla.org are the liars.
> I'm not saying that the announcement by Mozilla.org was made the best possible way (in fact I think they should have been more clear about the naming policy from the very beginning), I'm just saying that the plan is and has always been to call the browser Mozilla Browser. Period. ...
The problem is... the announcemnt said no such thing... not even remotely. Do you know why? I'll tell you why... because it was not a reality then like those misfits from Mozilla.org are claiming.
> Yet you keep accusing me for being a liar.