Not so fast

Posted Jun 19, 2008 10:31 UTC (Thu) by PaXTeam (guest, #24616)
In reply to: Not so fast by nix
Parent article: Stable kernel 2.6.25.7 released

> Er, I was pointing out that it would be significant if we saw things
> getting covered up and not fixed. We don't.

er, i was pointing out that it was *not* what we had been talking about all along. we talked
about things getting fixed but *not* communicated properly, in particular, the security impact
of fixes was sometimes omitted even when it was full well known. that *is* dishonest, no
matter how much you argue the opposite:

> I just don't think it's 'dishonest'.

that is *not* 'I'm agreeing with you', no matter how you spin it later.

but i said all this a 100 times already by now yet *you* keep diverging into irrelevant
possibilities that we have never raised. you tell me who has a reading comprehension propblem.
also it has been your strategy to change the subject of discussion slightly in order to be
able attack it then. that meets the dictionary definition of a strawman. i know you never
liked it when i exposed every one of your attempts, but that should not be reason to resort to
ad hominem in lieu of rational arguments (you probably figured out by now that i'm not a
native speaker, right?). as you so aptly said:

> This thread is giving me so *very* many examples of how not to communicate...

Not so fast

Posted Jun 19, 2008 21:47 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (1 responses)

The dictionary definition of a straw man argument is arguing !A and then 
concluding !B, where A is not a precondition of B.

What I'm doing is considering slight variations on what you're discussing 
in order to figure out if *they* have any merit (since your claim of some 
peculiar form of non-malicious dishonesty is incoherent I haven't wasted 
any time considering that case at all).

My apologies for *daring* to consider tangential cases at all. I wasn't 
aware I wasn't allowed to discuss such things.

(Your claims of 'exposure' reek of paranoia. In fact pretty much 
everything you've posted reeks of paranoia.)

Not so fast

Posted Jun 20, 2008 1:37 UTC (Fri) by zakalwe2 (guest, #50472) [Link]

>>since your claim of some peculiar form of non-malicious dishonesty is incoherent

No honey, your ass doesn't look big in that at all.