"Stable" kernel 2.6.25.7 released
"Stable" kernel 2.6.25.7 released
Posted Jun 17, 2008 22:44 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304)In reply to: "Stable" kernel 2.6.25.7 released by PaXTeam
Parent article: Stable kernel 2.6.25.7 released
It likely isn't always one of the kernel devs, but I fail to see how you can make claims regarding relative probabilities without data (and I can't figure out how to get useful data without being a major black hat whom a lot of other black hats talk to). (You really do talk a lot about straw men for someone who produces so many.)
Posted Jun 17, 2008 22:57 UTC (Tue)
by PaXTeam (guest, #24616)
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Posted Jun 18, 2008 12:52 UTC (Wed)
by nix (subscriber, #2304)
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Posted Jun 18, 2008 13:20 UTC (Wed)
by PaXTeam (guest, #24616)
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"Stable" kernel 2.6.25.7 released
> It likely isn't always one of the kernel devs, but I fail to see how you
> can make claims regarding relative probabilities without data
because in my carrier i have seen part of what we now call the security industry and i know
for a fact that the kernel devs can't match their resources.
> (and I can't figure out how to get useful data without being a major
> black hat whom a lot of other black hats talk to).
see, one way i can tell a security professional from the armchair one is that the latter's
world consist of simple black and white whereas the former knows it's way more complex. so
however disappointing it will sound to you, no, you don't need to be a 'major black hat'
(whatever that means anyway) to know the capabilities acquired by the security industry.
> (You really do talk a lot about straw men for someone who produces so
many.)
i see you feel very stronly when yours are being exposed one by one (notice how you never even
contested any of them or chose to chicken out, and btw, i thought you were done with this
thread ;), so you're welcome to expose every single one of mine ;).
"Stable" kernel 2.6.25.7 released
No thanks. You're simply too unpleasant to respond to anymore, and your debate technique is
frankly enraging.
(I'm frankly not surprised PaX isn't in the kernel if you're always this confrontational,
whatever its technical merits.)
"Stable" kernel 2.6.25.7 released
the truth isn't always pleasant. neither are strawmen, that seems to be your debate technique
and that didn't work here ;). nevertheless that didn't stop me from responding to you, did it?
i asked you once already, let me repeat that here again: what do you really want from *us*? we
made our point, explained it a dozen times already, what's left for you to do is to check the
facts out for yourself. you said you weren't interested or something like that, then why do
you keep posting irrelevant things?
> (I'm frankly not surprised PaX isn't in the kernel if you're always this
> confrontational, whatever its technical merits.)
i'm frankly not surprised you brought up yet another irrelevant point here. FYI, PaX isn't in
the kernel because, drumroll.... it has *never* been submitted. imagine that! ;) and as a
sidenote, PaX features *are* in the kernel but that's whole different story.
