Is it me only...

Posted Jun 1, 2007 22:37 UTC (Fri) by gvy (guest, #11981)
Parent article: Fedora 7 (Moonshine) released

...or fedora is falling prey to the same lust for unfounded buzz as ubuntu happily does?

Citing the press release by Max Spevack, "Fedora 7 provides the first appliance development platform that is 100 percent open source with an entirely free distribution build toolchain".

This is a self(ish) promotion, in ALT Linux we've had that completely free aplliance-targeted toolchain MORE THAN THREE YEARS AGO.

Imagine it, ApplianceWare was already built off that system (proprietary back then) when Fedora wasn't even a child. And now we're able to build controllable OpenVZ containers via web interface in Server 4.0 with next-gen.

Shame on PR makers who brightly publish false stuff, especially if these claim to be developers who should do their homework at least before overstating that way.

I'm only happy for colleagues' breakthroughs, but in technology, not in lies.

--
Michael Shigorin
ALT Linux Team
"yes, I've documented sandman"

More info on ALT Linux's build system?

Posted Jun 2, 2007 15:33 UTC (Sat) by ofeeley (guest, #36105) [Link]

Can you post links to some more information about this aspect of ALT Linux? I've looked at what appears to be the software that you talk about, Sisyphus (1), but can't find more detailed information about what this does. It seems like it's roughly equivalent to Koji?

If so, what tools does ALT Linux publish for creating an ISO or an install tree? (NB, I tried to take a look at the mailing lists for discussion of this issue but I unfortunately can't understand Russian. It may be that many are simply unaware of the work which ALT Linux has done.

The comparison to Ubuntu couldn't be more inaccurate though. Ubuntu (or should I say Canonical) have a closed-source build system (Launchpad), and actively promote the distribution of non-Free codecs and drivers.

1. http://www.altlinux.com/index.php?module=sisyphus