Fedora 7 (Moonshine) released
| From: | The Fedora Project <moonshine-AT-fedoraproject.org> | |
| To: | fedora-announce-list-AT-redhat.com | |
| Subject: | Announcing Fedora 7 (Moonshine) | |
| Date: | Thu, 31 May 2007 03:28:41 -0700 |
Howdy, cousins! Welcome to our little Fedora hollow, where we've brewed up some mighty, mighty Fedora 7 Moonshine for your enjoyment. Here, I'll help you pour that ... and some for me ... *cough, cough* Smoooooth ... sure does taste good. It's been sitting here in the jug for almost a whole month now! Go ahead and help yourself to some more: http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora.html What's the most important thing to do if you are upgrading your Fedora version? Why, that's easy! Read the release notes, it prevents hangovers: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes What are new things to do with your Moonshine? * Mix and remix this Moonshine to come up with as many flavored drinks as there is Joe-Pye weed in the Appalachians. Want an OS to send home with the students or staff? Add packages, remove packages, spin it any way you like. Let a thousand distros bloom! * Bottle up that custom mix and call it an appliance. ISV building an appliance product? Make an RPM, identify the minimal number of packages needed for an appliance around that RPM, then build a distro and a live image. Easy as moon pie. Gol' darn, but this is good 'shine. *hic* There, is that enough? No? Here, let me pour us some more, and we can toast the most important part of this Moonshine -- the makers. You thought I made it? Oh, no. No special elite brewmaster here, I'm just a bartender, and this log is my bar! Ha ha. No, really ... see ... Fedora 7 is the first release where the development was one hunnerd and one per-cent in the community. How? It's simple, cousin -- all the code was merged into a single external repository. Why? Same great distribution quality, even more high-quality developers able to work directly with the code and improve the flavor of over 7500 packages. Grab that jug, look inside, and you find: * KDE? Yep, with Moonshine, Fedora and KDE are gettin' downright friendly with each other. * Laptops? A tickless kernel means better power consumption for laptops; extended wireless functionality, meaning more chances hardware will Just Work. Yee-ha! * Get those Live images, burn CDs or DVDs, and share them with your friends and neighbors. This is the first Fedora distribution with full Live CD/DVD capability. * Interoperability? Let's start with resizing and reading of NTFS file systems. How about those Liberation fonts, d'you like how they just slip right in where other fonts were used? * Why stop with just one fruit jar of virtualization? This release includes support for KVM and overall more virtualization capability. * As always, tasty new graphics for the Fedora 7 desktop, as well as an updated Website look and functionality, including a new build and package update system. More? Read up at: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f7/en_US/sn-O... Oops, looks like we drank up all that jug. Guess I'll just make a trip over the torrents to get me another. All right, then, we'll see you. Y'all come back soon now, ya hear? = Want Fedora? Get Fedora = http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora.html -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list
Posted May 31, 2007 18:56 UTC (Thu)
by pflugstad (subscriber, #224)
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Thanks
Posted May 31, 2007 19:02 UTC (Thu)
by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330)
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Posted May 31, 2007 19:44 UTC (Thu)
by katzj (guest, #23350)
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Posted Jun 2, 2007 2:08 UTC (Sat)
by pflugstad (subscriber, #224)
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Pete
Posted May 31, 2007 20:48 UTC (Thu)
by filker0 (guest, #31278)
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This is not an accurate depiction of an Appelatchian 'shiner. For one, the moonshiner didn't complain once about the revenuers. Second, he'd never rat out his source or tell a stranger where to find it on his own. Just isn't done.
Just thought I'd get that off my chest.
...perhaps he was from Kentucky? :-)
Posted Jun 1, 2007 8:24 UTC (Fri)
by pointwood (guest, #2814)
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I will surely check it out.
Congrats to the Fedora team for another release!
Posted Jun 1, 2007 9:15 UTC (Fri)
by kripkenstein (guest, #43281)
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First the LiveCD was extremely slow and unresponsive. I raised the recommended RAM to 256 (VMWare suggest 192 before) and things somewhat improved, enough to install to the HD. Once booted from the (virtual) HD, things seemed to work, until I tried to do a package update, but the package manager froze. Force-closing it left a 50-MB process (that I only noticed because of its size), which couldn't be killed in the GNOME system monitor (note that this works in e.g. Ubuntu, they ask for the admin password for terminating root processes). After a few other annoyances I gave up for now. Perhaps I could have solved these matters with more work, I might look into it later when I have time.
Since I used Fedora in the past and liked it, I suspect that my issues are to do with either VMWare and/or the fact that I used a LiveCD (at least when running the LiveCD part). Perhaps the Fedora LiveCD isn't as mature as other distros' LiveCD offerings?
Posted Jun 1, 2007 14:44 UTC (Fri)
by atai (subscriber, #10977)
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Posted Jun 1, 2007 19:08 UTC (Fri)
by kripkenstein (guest, #43281)
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Posted Jun 3, 2007 19:54 UTC (Sun)
by bringo (guest, #45572)
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It uses the BusLogic SCSI driver.
Posted Jun 2, 2007 8:12 UTC (Sat)
by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
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That's apparently a VMWare bug in their SCSI emulation that got exposed by the changes in the kernel mptbase driver. Changing to IDE in VMWare should workaround this problem.
This is the first time a Fedora release has installalable Live images so there might be things that need more polish too. File RFE's in bugzilla.
Posted Jun 1, 2007 19:55 UTC (Fri)
by jengelh (guest, #33263)
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The torrents are so absolutely useless - downloading from a handful of FTP mirrors using aria2c is much faster anyway. This dialog kinda reminds me of Windows... Even though I create swap first, it always ends up as XFS support has not improved at all. While GRUB supports XFS for long now (0.91, 0.97 if you take out the bugs), FC still insists
Posted Jun 1, 2007 22:50 UTC (Fri)
by gvy (guest, #11981)
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XFS has been a first-class filesystem from at least 2003 there, and we do mdassemble early. OpenVZ is integrated as well as chrooted and privilege-separated services (our sec team collides with Owl's one). There's apt-get, and package dependencies are probably the best of breed I've seen on RPM-based distros. There's control(8) enabling to minimize binary privileges (e.g. suid, sgid + particular group) *and* keep those over package upgrades.
In short, if you need XFS...
ftp://ftp.altlinux.org/pub/distributions/ALTLinux/4.0/Ser...
Posted Jun 1, 2007 23:05 UTC (Fri)
by jengelh (guest, #33263)
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(And I do already have XFS/RAID-sb1 working. Only one file to patch - it was rather easy, but nevertheless, it is a bit annoying.)
Posted Jun 1, 2007 22:37 UTC (Fri)
by gvy (guest, #11981)
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Citing the press release by Max Spevack, "Fedora 7 provides the first appliance development platform that is 100 percent open source with an entirely free distribution build toolchain".
This is a self(ish) promotion, in ALT Linux we've had that completely free aplliance-targeted toolchain MORE THAN THREE YEARS AGO.
Imagine it, ApplianceWare was already built off that system (proprietary back then) when Fedora wasn't even a child. And now we're able to build controllable OpenVZ containers via web interface in Server 4.0 with next-gen.
Shame on PR makers who brightly publish false stuff, especially if these claim to be developers who should do their homework at least before overstating that way.
I'm only happy for colleagues' breakthroughs, but in technology, not in lies.
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Posted Jun 2, 2007 15:33 UTC (Sat)
by ofeeley (guest, #36105)
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If so, what tools does ALT Linux publish for creating an ISO or an install tree? (NB, I tried to take a look at the mailing lists for discussion of this issue but I unfortunately can't understand Russian. It may be that many are simply unaware of the work which ALT Linux has done.
The comparison to Ubuntu couldn't be more inaccurate though. Ubuntu (or should I say Canonical) have a closed-source build system (Launchpad), and actively promote the distribution of non-Free codecs and drivers.
1. http://www.altlinux.com/index.php?module=sisyphus
I haven't touched fedora in a while (like FC1 timeframe) - do they do a live CD at all, to compare with say, with the ubuntu live CD?Fedora 7 (Moonshine) released
Yes; F7 is the first release with live CDs.
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Technically, we released a live CD for FC6 as well; it just was released after FC6 and wasn't installable.Fedora 7 (Moonshine) released
Thanks - I'll have to try it out.Fedora 7 (Moonshine) released
Having just recently moved from West by God Virginia, I find the tone and tone of the above quoted release announcement a bit offensive.
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Great release notes!Fedora 7 (Moonshine) released
I just tried out the Fedora 7 LiveCD out in VMWare. Sadly I couldn't get it to work.Fedora 7 (Moonshine) released
Have you used the same VMWare setup with other live CDs?Fedora 7 (Moonshine) released
Yes, I just ran the Xubuntu Feisty LiveCD and installed it in the same VMWare installation. No major hitches.Fedora 7 (Moonshine) released
Try http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/#fedora7Fedora 7 (Moonshine) released
Fedora 7 (Moonshine) released
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64,650,264/2,900,602,880 Bytes 2% 13m09s 4430.20 KB/s 3 connections sda2 after I added the root fs. Not nice./boot be not on one. Meh. And FC still does not use mdadm (inside initramfs) by default so autodetecting 1.x RAID superblocks (read: root filesystem with a v1 superblock) is a no-go. At least one other distro already does it for more than .. 6 months. Hm!
You can look at ALT Linux 4.0 Server if you use XFS/RAID, guess you prefer stable power and stable software as well.XFS & RAID
https://lists.altlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/community-en/
I forgot to add: SPARC64.XFS & RAID
...or fedora is falling prey to the same lust for unfounded buzz as ubuntu happily does?Is it me only...
Michael Shigorin
ALT Linux Team
"yes, I've documented sandman"
Can you post links to some more information about this aspect of ALT Linux? I've looked at what appears to be the software that you talk about, Sisyphus (1), but can't find more detailed information about what this does. It seems like it's roughly equivalent to Koji?More info on ALT Linux's build system?
