ESR's goodbye note
ESR's goodbye note
Posted Feb 21, 2007 17:11 UTC (Wed) by dowdle (subscriber, #659)Parent article: ESR's goodbye note
Almost the same thing could be said about the Debian project... it has had a lot of infighting... and various political battles that those that don't care about the principles of Free Software don't care much about.
To me, struggle is a sign of a healthy project... not some signal of doom.
Oh, wait... ESR switched to Ubuntu... the people leaching off of Debian. Same difference.
I agree with the person who said that dpkg isn't really techincally better than rpm... but Debian's strick packaging policy, bringing everything into the Debian fold of packages and maintaining it (rather than a large number of semi-common packages coming from third-party repositories)... has been a plus.
rpm's main problem is that there are indeed quite a few poorly built packages out there.
I don't exactly agree with ESR's opinion on adopting proprietary codecs. I prefer the situation where the end user can do that if they so choose... but the distro takes a stand to keep that stuff out officially.
Linspire has also opened up CNR for multiple distributions so I'm not sure there is something special about the Ubuntu/Freespire connection even if one were to totally buy into the "we must adopt proprietary codecs as an official part of the distro" mentality.
Just out of curiousity ESR, what's next? Should we all buy a copy of CrossOver Office and a license for Microsoft Office?
I must admit I'm a Fedora Core user for personal desktops and RHEL (Academic) and CentOS user on servers. I've used Debian and Ubuntu under some circumstances... but my decision was usually made for personal preference reasons rather than technical reasons. All distros share 95% (a made up number that sounds reasonable) of the same software so making a choice on preference isn't exactly illogical.
ESR, if you were unhappy and left, good for you. A small percentage of folks switch all of the time... and it is good to try out different distros. I'm glad we have all of this competition to keep the major players on their toes... a factor sorely missing somewhere else.
Posted Feb 21, 2007 18:34 UTC (Wed)
by foo (guest, #1117)
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Do you feel this is harmful to Debian in some way?
Curious, thanks.
Posted Feb 21, 2007 19:07 UTC (Wed)
by malex (guest, #15692)
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Posted Feb 22, 2007 6:54 UTC (Thu)
by ldo (guest, #40946)
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The poster said "leaching", not "leeching".
I'm curious in what way you feel the Ubuntu project leeches off ofESR's goodbye note
Debian? I thought they just took a Debian snapshot, tweaked it
to their preference, and released it (similar to what all distros
do with their component packages)?
Check Debian mailings lists. There have been extensive threads about this ESR's goodbye note
issue last year, so you'll be able to satisfy your curiosity with hours
and hours of reading straight from the horse's mouth. This discussion is
really not a good place to start another thread on the topic.
Different words
I'm curious in what way you feel the Ubuntu project leeches off of Debian?
