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QOTW:  "Also, keeping the strong prefix notation will make the oo
interface consistent and more Smalltalk-ish...  Keeping the lisp and
smalltalk syntax flavors intact in tcl is IMHO a very Good Thing.
	
Some people love them, some hate them. The problems only really come
when one side decides that it *has* to force the other to change their
heathen ways..." - Donal K. Fellows in reply to the invisible kerneljock

"Just as you write documentation for someone else to read, write code like
someone else will have to maintain it." - Glenn Jackman
     http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/804b35f9...


POTW:
    ANNOUNCE: Tcl/Tk 8.4.14 Release
	The Tcl Core Team is pleased to announce the 8.4.14 releases of the
	Tcl dynamic language and the Tk toolkit.  This is the fourteenth
	patch release of Tcl/Tk 8.4.  More details can be found below.  We
	would like to express our gratitude to all those who submit bug
	reports and patches.  This information is invaluable in enabling us
	to identify and eliminate problems in the core.

    Downloads: 
	http://www.tcl.tk/software/tcltk/8.4.html
	http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=10894
    Binaries: 
	http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    Posting:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/t...

    ANNOUNCE: Tcl/Tk 8.5a5 Release
	The Tcl Core Team is pleased to announce the 8.5a5 releases of the Tcl
	dynamic language and the Tk toolkit.  This is the fifth alpha release
	of Tcl/Tk 8.5.  More details can be found below.  We would like to
	express our gratitude to all those who submit bug reports and patches.
	This information is invaluable in enabling us to identify and eliminate
	problems in the core. 
    Downloads:
	http://www.tcl.tk/software/tcltk/8.5.html
	http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=10894
    Posting:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/t...

ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl
    Tcl_Obj and threads
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/t...

    Finding a niche for Tcl
    pushing tcl toward the "One Laptop Per Child" project.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/t...


    Tcl-2006 Post Conference Report
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/t...

    bug tracking software in Tcl?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/t...

    Itcl and TIP#257
    Arnulf Wiedemann has done a proof of concept implementation of Itcl on
    TIP#257
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/t...

    ITcl based on TIP #279
    Gustaf Neumann has a basic implementation of Itcl on top of TIP#279
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/t...

ATTC: At the Core:
    Some discussion on TIP#257,#279 ( some stray messages off this thread )
	http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=30...

TIPX: new, used and discarded Tips
    TIP 125 by Brian Griffin : Converting between Frame and Toplevel Windows
	http://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/125.html
	Vote: In progress
    TIP 286 by Schelte Bron : Add 'xposition' Command to Menu Widgets
	http://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/286.html
	is a new TIP

OOTW: Orphan of the week or questions nobody answered yet:
    8.5 documentation etc.
    This is a call for volunteers!
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/t...

TWIP: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl this week TEN years ago:
    TCL extension adding C-like capabilities?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/t...
    
    UPDATED: Tcl for POSIX Threads
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/t...

    Anonymous Functions in TCL
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/t...


Thanks to Arjen Markus for his summary of Wiki activity:
  With the Wiki displaying the usual melange of topics,
  let us get started without further ado!
  
  Games to be played or programmed
  - The French Wiki provides a challenge: make a program
    to deal with the elaborate scoring of Tarot
    - <http://wfr.tcl.tk/1271>
  
  - Connect the dots and your opponent will do the same:
    <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17102>
  
  Apply or use
  - One of the many package managers perhaps, but the
    screenshots are nice - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/15866>
  
  - Oh, those damned things we need to do ... Little
    yellow sticky pieces of paper will not always help.
    Perhaps this program will? <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17097>
  
  - Here is a cute application for editing your sound
    bites - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17118>
  
  - A simple idea: all your favourite things together
    in a song ... eh menu: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/10946>
  
  - I always thought Ajax was a brand of cleaning 
    fluid (*), but there you go: it is a way to 
    program websites. <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17116>
  
    (*) A lame joke was intended that requires some
        cultural background knowledge ...
  
  Linguistic aspects 
  - Yes, why not embed another language in Tcl,
    especially one designed for it? 
    <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17068>
  
  - Eastern mysticism or something more tangible?
    This form of TAO may prove useful to construct
    your programs with - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17044>
  
  
Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
        http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
        http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
        http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
        http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
        http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
        http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
        http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
        http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
        http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).
        http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
        http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even 
    though clta itself is dormant.
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

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