SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
SeaMonkey still uses the "kitchen sink" approach. It includes the Navigator browser, the ChatZilla IRC client, the Composer HTML editor, a mail and newsgroup client, and an address book component all bundled into one big application. To get all the functionality of SeaMonkey using the separate Mozilla apps, you'd have to install Firefox, Thunderbird, the ChatZilla extension for Firefox, and a separate HTML editor such as Nvu (which is built using the Composer codebase)."
Posted Aug 14, 2006 19:19 UTC (Mon)
by Tara_Li (guest, #26706)
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Posted Aug 14, 2006 20:06 UTC (Mon)
by dlang (guest, #313)
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Posted Aug 15, 2006 9:39 UTC (Tue)
by petegn (guest, #847)
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It is my personal opinion that the Mozilla orginization needs a kick where it hurts big time maybe the far better move would be can firefox and thunderbird never liked either of them and Seamonkey was a VERY welcome breeze reinstate it you know it makes sense or are they becoming an M$ Corp ish entity
Posted Aug 15, 2006 13:24 UTC (Tue)
by cpm (guest, #3554)
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Posted Aug 15, 2006 16:03 UTC (Tue)
by proski (subscriber, #104)
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Seamonkey is simply the best by far. What is it that? People are afraid of in getting an application that is FULLY capable, not crippled?
It is my personal opinion that the Mozilla organization needs a kick where it hurts big time. Maybe the far better move would be [to] can Firefox and Thunderbird? [I] Never liked either of them. And Seamonkey was a VERY welcome breeze. Reinstate it! You know, it makes sense, or are they becoming an M$ Corp-ish entity.
Posted Aug 18, 2006 0:16 UTC (Fri)
by lysse (guest, #3190)
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Posted Aug 15, 2006 12:40 UTC (Tue)
by gvy (guest, #11981)
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So while Firefox and Thunderbird and marketing are ok, I hope Seamonkey will live on. Sometimes one needs an explanation for four hundred megabytes :-)
Posted Aug 15, 2006 15:49 UTC (Tue)
by hathawsh (guest, #11289)
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I highly prefer the separation of Firefox and Thunderbird. When Firefox crashes due to a buggy plugin or an errant script, Thunderbird doesn't crash with it. When Thunderbird crashes on a spam, particularly one with a malformed date header, Firefox doesn't go with it. While the crashes aren't good, isn't it good to isolate crashes? For me they happen all the time.
Posted Aug 15, 2006 16:27 UTC (Tue)
by larryr (guest, #4030)
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I only use the browser; I do not use any Mozilla product for email. Every time I have tried to configure the Firefox browser to work as (well as) the Seamonkey browser has worked for me, I have found it frustrating, and not been successful, and have never found Firefox to have any compelling features not in Seamonkey. To me it has nothing to do with integration of multiple applications; I only install the browser.
Larry@Riedel.org
Posted Aug 15, 2006 16:34 UTC (Tue)
by proski (subscriber, #104)
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Posted Aug 15, 2006 17:40 UTC (Tue)
by larryr (guest, #4030)
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That is exactly the reason I continue to use Seamonkey. I do not want to care/think about prefs.js, userChrome.css, about:config, etc., and with Seamonkey I can get what I want from just using Edit->Preferences.
Larry@Riedel.org
Posted Aug 15, 2006 20:34 UTC (Tue)
by jstAusr (guest, #27224)
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The first time I looked at it my thought was "well that is useful but which configuration file needs to be change for each element". Doh!
Posted Aug 15, 2006 17:34 UTC (Tue)
by niner (subscriber, #26151)
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Posted Aug 15, 2006 19:49 UTC (Tue)
by markhb (guest, #1003)
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Posted Aug 31, 2006 12:30 UTC (Thu)
by jschrod (subscriber, #1646)
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Speaking of preferences; for me, SeaMonkey has the better preference dialog. about:config is no substitute for it.
SeaMonkey doesn't need lots of extensions to get usable. Install it and go.
For those who use a non-Mozilla email client, SeaMonkey has a more-or-less decent mail client for the occasional link forwarding. Adding a different MUA to Firefox in a non-GNOME environement is an excercise in futility.
SeaMonkey has the better news client than Thunderbird.
As a summary, Firefox on Linux in a non-GNOME environment seems to be a second-class citizen, compared to the Windows version. (I didn't try it in a GNOME environment.) In my experience, SeaMonkey behaves better there. YMMV.
Joachim
Posted Aug 15, 2006 19:46 UTC (Tue)
by pheldens (guest, #19366)
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Posted Aug 16, 2006 2:23 UTC (Wed)
by finster (guest, #32338)
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Posted Aug 27, 2006 20:30 UTC (Sun)
by jengelh (guest, #33263)
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I have to say that I much prefer having the complete package integrated together. The Mozilla Organization has focused its attention, and marketing, so completely on the Firefox product, that SeaMonkey gets no attention. Here's hoping SeaMonkey starts getting more attention, so that the add-ins can be set up to work with both Firefox and Seamonkey.SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
the mozilla orginization has officially discontinued Seamonkey (in favof of firefox, thunderbird, etc), the group that formed to maintain Seamonkey has the responsibility of maintaining compatability. it's no longer a mozilla product ('mearly' a mozilla _based_ project)SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
Seamonkey is simply the best by far what is it that people are affraid of in getting an application that is FULLY capable not crippled .SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
I can't understand this post.SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
Here's my attempt at translation:
SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
I can only assume that petegn's ability to type is compromised by the skin having been scraped off his knuckles. We have harsh sidewalks here in Britain.SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
I've wrestled for three months a couple years ago with FF 0.9, TB 0.6 and various integration recipes -- then dumped it and went back for Mozilla as I knew it for years. Seamonkey was nice and welcome upgrade (really an upgrade to me, didn't watch 1.8a).+1
An honest question: Why do you prefer the integrated package? I personally see no reason why it's better.SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
Try about:config. Firefox hides many options from GUI. As for the features, the integrated spell checker in the 2.0 beta is pretty compelling.
SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
Try about:config
about:config works nicely, just double click and make the change.SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
So the choice is between seperated components that crash seperately, or an integrated package, that simply does not crash. Thanks, I use the non-crashing alternative... (this is just my experience as an all day Seamonkey user)SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
One reason to keep Seamonkey around, IMHO, is that the News component of Mailnews is well ahead of Thunderbird's news handling (or at least it was the last I knew). I don't use either T-Bird or Mailnews for email, either, but I like Seamonkey for Usenet much more than I like Evolution.SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
SeaMonkey behaves better in my non-GNOME environment than Firefox (font settings and such). The recipes for changing chrome files are no substitute for the font preference dialog. For reference, read the dozens of threads in the suse-e mailing list, with problems of people with KDE environments.SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
Thus lesser problems with extensions during updates.
Recommended theme for seamonkey 'mostly crystal small'SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
Tried the FF and TB combination for awhile too. Found FF getting slower with each release, early on it was faster than mozilla. In the end, I went back to mozilla v1.6 as it appeared to be faster. That was on first ever loads of new pages. I continue to use seamonkey for mail and browsing. As for themes I use the default and pull down a gtk or gtk2-engine so that it blends in with the other apps. I hope to continue using the seamonkey tree! SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)
The big problem with Firefox+Thunderbird+extras is that they all have separate settings. That means, if you change your language settings for example, you can do it once for each application. No problem with SeaMonkey, it is all-in-one.SeaMonkey suite still swimming along (NewsForge)