Pointers to the relevant bugs filed

Posted Jul 21, 2006 1:11 UTC (Fri) by yusufg (guest, #407)
Parent article: OLS: On how user space sucks

I'm assuming Dave filed bug reports in the appropiate places or was this talk the 'bug report' and he's expecting others to file bugs.

Dave, if you are reading this and you've filed bug reports can you link to them please

Pointers to the relevant bugs filed

Posted Jul 21, 2006 3:44 UTC (Fri) by cventers (guest, #31465) [Link]

Pardon, but I'm guessing from reading your comment that you might have
missed Dave's point. I don't think his point was to point out specific
problems with specific applications -- his point was to make it clear that
we should be paying more attention to such things in general.

Having a super-robust and massively efficient kernel is only half the
battle. Without making similar improvements in user-space (or worse,
losing ground because of the sort of problems Dave brings up), the free
software desktop as a whole won't improve.

Asking "where's the bug reports" has always seemed to me like a defensive
response. The correct response is to acknowledge that there is a problem
and fix it.

Pointers to the relevant bugs filed

Posted Jul 21, 2006 12:32 UTC (Fri) by arjan (subscriber, #36785) [Link]

Most of the guilty people were actually in the room and took this bug report in public after admitting the humilating fact that we write sucky code...

Pointers to the relevant bugs filed

Posted Jul 21, 2006 21:39 UTC (Fri) by davej (subscriber, #354) [Link]

I don't have pointers to bugs, because in a lot of cases, I just mailed/IRC'd the relevant developers.

Lots of the examples I covered are already fixed, but there are still a number of outstanding issues. I'll be rerunning the tests some time soon, and see what's left that sticks out, but based on data I collected not so long back, we're now doing a *lot* better than we used to.

The initial tests the paper was based on were done on Fedora Core 5 test1 iirc, and I did some quick stats on an FC5 final release, and the amount of reads/stats/exec's were pretty much halved, even though we had added more functionality, and a few extra daemons etc.

I'll be looking at this stuff again as we get closer to FC6.