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How Sun's Java got into Debian

How Sun's Java got into Debian

Posted May 25, 2006 4:57 UTC (Thu) by mgb (guest, #3226)
Parent article: How Sun's Java got into Debian

> Sure we could just have disclosed the license to -legal beforehand,
> but then Sun probably would never talk to us about doing things
> like this one again

S: Wanna buy a bridge? I can get you a great deal. Only it's gotta
be our secret see?

D: Can't I check with my attorney?

S: Sure. You can check with your attorney after you sign.

D: OK!


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How Sun's Java got into Debian

Posted May 25, 2006 7:06 UTC (Thu) by davidw (guest, #947) [Link] (4 responses)

-legal is sort of a dubious resource in any case, as, last I checked, it was mostly amateurs - not legal professionals. While they may have the best of intentions and be smart people, not having a legal background is a big impediment to some legal discussions.

How Sun's Java got into Debian

Posted May 25, 2006 15:51 UTC (Thu) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link] (1 responses)

True. However, -legal is a LOT better than the non-process that rammed Java into Debian without any meaningful license analysis at all.

How Sun's Java got into Debian

Posted May 25, 2006 17:31 UTC (Thu) by mbanck (subscriber, #9035) [Link]

True. However, -legal is a LOT better than the non-process that rammed Java into Debian without any meaningful license analysis at all.

The license was reviewed by the person who usually reviews licenses for non-free - James Troup. Argueably, more review might not been a bad idea, but to say there was a non-process is totally false; in fact, I believe the correct process has been used.

Michael

How Sun's Java got into Debian

Posted May 25, 2006 21:29 UTC (Thu) by smitty_one_each (subscriber, #28989) [Link] (1 responses)

Not sure why the legal system has to be so obscure that it requires "legal professionals" to understand it. Does the legal system serve us, or we it?

How Sun's Java got into Debian

Posted May 27, 2006 22:28 UTC (Sat) by davidw (guest, #947) [Link]

You may have a point, but unless the system changes, involving legal professionals in the legal review of licenses is a sensible thing to do.

You would hire a professional programmer to work with your source code, wouldn't you?


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