Nokia releases 'Web Browser for S60' code

Posted May 24, 2006 17:10 UTC (Wed) by nix (subscriber, #2304)
In reply to: Nokia releases 'Web Browser for S60' code by landley
Parent article: Nokia releases 'Web Browser for S60' code

What's the point? Konqueror uses almost all the core KDE services because it *needs* them. If you wanted a standalone konqueror, you'd have to provide your own implementations of at least KHTML, KIO, DCOP/D-BUS, KParts... in effect you'd have to reimplement kdelibs and a fairly large part of kdebase. It's easier just to, well, install kdelibs and kdebase (the only two mandatory KDE packages anyway). It's not as if they use more than a tiny amount of a modern machine's disk space.

Nokia releases 'Web Browser for S60' code

Posted May 25, 2006 10:07 UTC (Thu) by LintuxCx (guest, #14448) [Link] (1 responses)

Why doesn't it need them on OS X then?

And BTW, is this really the same WebKit as used by Apple's Safari? I can't imagine it is, unless they somehow managed to relicense KHTML to BSD instead of GPL?

Nokia releases 'Web Browser for S60' code

Posted May 25, 2006 18:55 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Because Konqueror doesn't run on OS X: another browser using KHTML (*just one* of the components used by Konqueror) does.

Try navigating to e.g. ssh://localhost/, or opening a terminal, or using some KPart or other. Oops, you can't, because it's not using the KDE services that give access to such things. (Actually, some of these things may be possible, but if so, they're using native MacOS X stuff, instead.)

Nokia releases 'Web Browser for S60' code

Posted May 25, 2006 12:23 UTC (Thu) by thebluesgnr (guest, #37963) [Link] (2 responses)

Well, that's exactly the point. Firefox, for example, depends on GTK+ but not gnome-vfs, dbus, ORBit, bonobo, etc (better GNOME integration can be provided by a separate package though, firefox-gnome-support on Debian). Loading Konqueror on a non-KDE environment loads the entire KDE platform. Hard disk space is not a problem, but memory is.
It would at least increase the market share of KHTML-based browsers a little bit.

It would be nice to have a web browser based on KHTML that didn't have all these requirements.

Nokia releases 'Web Browser for S60' code

Posted May 25, 2006 13:28 UTC (Thu) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link]

Examples from the Gecko side:

http://swik.net/web-browser+gecko

Strangely enough, Skipstone and Kazehakase haven't progressed very well.
So is K-Meleon on Windows. Camino on Mac is probably the only exception.

It sseems that you just can't unbloat Gecko...

Nokia releases 'Web Browser for S60' code

Posted May 25, 2006 18:58 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Tricky. KHTML itself uses KIO, KParts, and many other core KDE libraries. (Gecko doesn't use GNOME because it isn't part of GNOME; as a consequence it reinvents the wheel to an appalling degree, and often makes them square, e.g. the horror which is XPCOM.)