OpenDocument Fellowship petitions Microsoft to support ODF
Microsoft has said that they will support the OpenDocument format if there is customer demand. The purpose of the petition is to demonstrate that customer demand." (Thanks to David A. Wheeler.)
Posted Oct 27, 2005 18:54 UTC (Thu)
by elanthis (guest, #6227)
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Posted Oct 27, 2005 21:55 UTC (Thu)
by escitalopram (guest, #31419)
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Posted Oct 28, 2005 1:16 UTC (Fri)
by dwheeler (guest, #1216)
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But even if Microsoft ignores the requests of others, it's still very valuable to do. The call is not just for Microsoft's benefit. Others are apparantly claiming that "no one wants a fully open standard for documents". These people's arguments need to be countered with facts. One easy piece of evidence that can be gathered is evidence that shows that indeed, there are LOTS of people with LOTS of computers that DO want a fully open standard for documents. Popularity contests do not determine rightness, but they do a good job of silencing the "nobody wants it" argument. If there's a significant turnout, it will mute those who want to eliminate the right to own your own data.
Posted Oct 28, 2005 14:30 UTC (Fri)
by nurhussein (guest, #16226)
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By "ecosystem" they are referring to people who gladly purchase whatever junk MS pushes down their throat, and also their legion of mousemonkey pointy-clicky "developers". Those, say the MS apologist/shill, are the "real computing professionals".
Posted Oct 28, 2005 20:40 UTC (Fri)
by thompsot (guest, #12368)
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Posted Nov 3, 2005 7:37 UTC (Thu)
by xoddam (subscriber, #2322)
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Posted Oct 28, 2005 22:46 UTC (Fri)
by pr1268 (guest, #24648)
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Posted Oct 31, 2005 15:51 UTC (Mon)
by proski (subscriber, #104)
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A ton of anti-MS Free Software geeks signing said petition is useless. Microsoft said they care about *customers*. People who won't be Microsoft customers even if Office supported OD aren't of much interest to Microsoft. What needs to happen is a group of *actual* Microsoft customers need to refuse to buy or upgrade Office until OD support is implemented. That's how you give your vote to a company as a customer. Not with goofy Internet petitions.OpenDocument Fellowship petitions Microsoft to support ODF
Yah... but probably there's a reasonable share of anti-MS Free Software geeks who are or will become IT-Consultants...OpenDocument Fellowship petitions Microsoft to support ODF
Microsoft needs to hear that people want it, though. The European Union told Microsoft to get involved in OpenDocument, and they didn't. Massachusetts has said they're requiring OpenDocument, and Microsoft said they didn't think any customers wanted it (apparantly Massachusetts is not a customer!). There's some hope that if enough OTHER people raise their voices, they'll be heard.
It needs to be heard
I've studied MS shill & apologist psychology long enough to be able to predict a response to that : "crazy hippie geeks aren't people. When we say people, we mean the Microsoft ecosystem!".It needs to be heard
It needs to be heard
I do believe you've hit the nail right square on the head.
I have accepted Microsoft licences over and over again, usually but not I *am* a Microsoft customer.
always on behalf of an employer. The fact is that someone has paid
Microsoft good money so that I can use Office on Windows.
I would be a much more satisfied and less grudging Microsoft customer if
Office didn't implement proprietary format lock-in.
My thoughts are that if MS agrees to support ODF, then that's like they're admitting that a diverse group of open-source developers with a publicly available open standard document format are dictating their platform strategy.OpenDocument Fellowship petitions Microsoft to support ODF
I'm unsure they'd be comfortable making such an admission. For MS, it's all about CONTROL. And they'd lose that control by giving in to supporting ODF. Any others' thoughts on this idea?
Nobody is asking Micoroft to use ODF as the default storage format. Having a few more filters is worlds away from anyone dictating Microsoft what to do.
OpenDocument Fellowship petitions Microsoft to support ODF