Note that X.Org has its own modularization project
Note that X.Org has its own modularization project
Posted Aug 30, 2005 16:54 UTC (Tue) by stef70 (guest, #14813)In reply to: Note that X.Org has its own modularization project by stevenj
Parent article: Fedora: RFC: X.Org X11 modularization project - rpm package driver naming
Actually, there are only about 270 packages since each one is provided twice (.gz and .bz2).
That seems a lot but in fact the modularization will make most of the packages optionnal:
- 37 fonts including some for 'exotic' languages (arabic, cyrilic, ...) and old terminals (ibm, sun, dec).
- 28 drivers for input devices you probably never heard of (jamstudio, hyperpen , penmount, tek4957, ... )
- 41 video drivers (anyone using more than one or two?)
- 42 libraries (you probably want those) plus 30 packages for their prototypes (for developpers)
- The X server itself.
- The remaing 100 packages are old legacy X11 applications. Most of them are quite useless nowadays (viewres, appres, xmessage, xwd, xwud, xcalc, xclipboard, ...).
Posted Aug 30, 2005 17:03 UTC (Tue)
by corbet (editor, #1)
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Posted Aug 30, 2005 17:25 UTC (Tue)
by stef70 (guest, #14813)
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Nevertheless, most of the new X11 users are now running a desktop like KDE or Gnome and can probably live without ever starting any of those applications.
Posted Sep 1, 2005 0:35 UTC (Thu)
by darktjm (guest, #19598)
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Posted Sep 1, 2005 14:37 UTC (Thu)
by bkw1a (subscriber, #4101)
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http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~pelzlpj/orpie/
RPN. Text. Mmmmmmmm!
Posted Sep 1, 2005 21:30 UTC (Thu)
by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501)
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As for video cards: distros will probably install all of them by default, because it's much more convinient: you don't want to start installing an RPM the moment somebody plugs in a card.
Hey! I still use xcalc! Those newfangled calculators look fancy, but xcalc supports RPN mode. Must be time for a grumpy editor's guide to on-screen calculators...
Useless apps
To be honest, I occasionally use some of those old X11 applications (xset, xdpyinfo, xhost, xrefresh, xkill, xgamma). Hardly xcalc! I would rather use 'bc' or one of the matlab clones such as octave. Useless apps
Funny, I never realized xcalc supported RPN (never bothered reading the manual for something I thought was a too-simple calculator). Then again, it says "HP10C", which implies 4-item stack limit, which is too little for me (I started RPN w/ forth and moved to HP28 & its successors, which have "infinite" stacks). There are a large number of other X calculators that support RPN, though (alas, many are very heavy, but that's modern software for you). The ones I know of from back when I wanted something for my PDA: galculator, which looks a lot like a better, slightly programmable, xcalc (complete with 4 item stack limit), pgcalc, which can look a lot like a real HP calculator, but isn't even remotely, and doesn't seem to support X paste, grpn, which is RPN-only, and of course various HP calculator emulators and lookalikes. I just use a real HP calculator on my desk when I don't need cut & paste and bc or sh $(()) (algebraic, but dirt simple) when I do need cut & paste. Plus, as noted above, there are even heavier apps for calculation, like scientific number crunchers and CASs.
xcalc
Gotta put in a plug for orpie:[offtopic] Another calculator: orpie
xmessage is used in many scripts.Note that X.Org has its own modularization project