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Linux wireless freedom with OpenWrt (NewsForge)

NewsForge reviews OpenWrt. "You can turn your blue Linksys router into a Linux box with OpenWrt, an embedded Linux distribution for Linksys WRT54G and WRT54GS routers. This tiny distribution exceeds the default firmware functionality in many useful ways. Instead of having only a Web-controlled wireless access point, OpenWrt provides you with a fully interactive Linux system. Some notable features are the ability to telnet/SSH to your router, install software such as Snort, Mini-Sendmail, and Asterisk, and create and control VLANs for every Ethernet port on the device."

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Linux wireless freedom with OpenWrt (NewsForge)

Posted Aug 19, 2005 7:15 UTC (Fri) by ncm (guest, #165) [Link] (1 responses)

How does this compare to Sveasoft's product? Is it derived from older (now Free) versions of that?

Linux wireless freedom with OpenWrt (NewsForge)

Posted Aug 19, 2005 10:52 UTC (Fri) by wookey (guest, #5501) [Link]

I don't know anything about the relative functionalities but I think that the reported highly dubious business practices of Sveasoft mean that you really shouldn't buy their stuff, or at least should have a good read of the net first. They have taken an interesting business approach of charging a subscription to GPLed code which is technically legal, but seems to me be to against the spirit of Free Software. That is perhaps fair enough, but their other reported actions are clearly out of order. The accusation is that people who distribute the Sveasoft code under their GPL rights are accused of stealing, threatened, and sometimes have their ISP approached to get their access removed. I don't think a company that behaves like that should get any business from anyone.

'The individual's side of the story is here: http://wrt54g.thermoman.de/

There is also a very interesting discussion in the 'sveasoft' wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sveasoft

It's difficult to decide what the real truth is here, but the net effect is that I'm certainly not using Sveasoft's software on my WRTG54, and am sufficiently unimpressed to feel that I ought to bring the controversy to the attention of others who might be considering it.

Linux wireless freedom with OpenWrt (NewsForge)

Posted Aug 19, 2005 8:56 UTC (Fri) by nbd (subscriber, #14393) [Link]

While Sveasoft is just a mod of the original Linksys firmware, OpenWrt is entirely different.
The only things it uses from the Linksys firmware are parts of the kernel source and the drivers (ported to a newer Linux version).
So comparing the two one could say that Sveasoft is trying to cram some more features into the original firmware and OpenWrt is trying to build a new and better base system for wireless routers (it runs on many similar non-Linksys units and is being ported to different architectures as well).

Linux wireless freedom with OpenWrt (NewsForge)

Posted Aug 19, 2005 10:23 UTC (Fri) by zezaz (guest, #5465) [Link] (3 responses)

Regarding features, there is basically only one i really miss in OpenWRT: static DHCP (lets you assignate fixed IPs and DNS names to hosts based on their MAC address). Once they add it, i believe i will drop Sveasoft to OpenWRT.

One cute feature of OpenWRT i miss in Sveasoft is that it is package-based: that enables smooth upgrades...

Linux wireless freedom with OpenWrt (NewsForge)

Posted Aug 19, 2005 10:34 UTC (Fri) by fghorow (subscriber, #5229) [Link]

Check out the dnsmasq package (ipkg getable for openWrt). The "dns" in the name aside, it also does DHCP with a fairly simple configuration. In particular, you can map MACs to IP numbers...

Linux wireless freedom with OpenWrt (NewsForge)

Posted Aug 19, 2005 12:29 UTC (Fri) by hildeb (guest, #6532) [Link] (1 responses)

I'm quite sure you can do static DHCP with the dhcpd OpenWRT comes along
with...

Linux wireless freedom with OpenWrt (NewsForge)

Posted Aug 19, 2005 16:22 UTC (Fri) by zezaz (guest, #5465) [Link]

Best thanks fghorow and hildeb. I missed that point in the OpenWRT doc: now i only have to migrate :)

An OpenWrt based based firmware is DD-WRT

Posted Aug 19, 2005 12:43 UTC (Fri) by kromo (guest, #31945) [Link] (4 responses)

This one is pretty active. It was originally based on Alchemy and Talisman from Sveasoft but has made very much of independent progress like new GUI, VOIP features, etc. and switched recently to OpenWRT as the underlying distribution.

Take a look at:

http://dd-wrt.org

An OpenWrt based based firmware is DD-WRT

Posted Aug 19, 2005 15:43 UTC (Fri) by rfunk (subscriber, #4054) [Link] (3 responses)

Can you give a link or quote about dd-wrt switching to openwrt?
Everything I found on their site was about Alchemy and Talisman. (Though
their forum seems to be down now, so I might be missing something there.)

An OpenWrt based based firmware is DD-WRT

Posted Aug 19, 2005 16:37 UTC (Fri) by nbd (subscriber, #14393) [Link]

It's not really based on OpenWrt, though the author of DD-WRT wants it to be someday. At the moment it's still an offspin of Alchemy with lots of extra stuff that includes some OpenWrt parts.

An OpenWrt based based firmware is DD-WRT

Posted Aug 19, 2005 16:43 UTC (Fri) by kromo (guest, #31945) [Link] (1 responses)

Google is your friend ;-)

eg. a result:
http://www.macsat.com/forum/index.php/topic,47.new.html

Basically this enables one to use packages from OpenWRT without needing to update the whole firmware (requires a rw filesystem, which is not turned on by default due to the compression ratio)

An OpenWrt based based firmware is DD-WRT

Posted Sep 12, 2005 0:18 UTC (Mon) by kromo (guest, #31945) [Link]

Statement from the developer:
http://forum.bsr-clan.de/viewtopic.php?t=1221#7599

Web interface?

Posted Aug 19, 2005 15:55 UTC (Fri) by eli (guest, #11265) [Link]

Does OpenWRT have a web interface? When I played with it, I didn't find
one...

What about Linux on wired router appliances?

Posted Aug 19, 2005 16:01 UTC (Fri) by Duncan (guest, #6647) [Link] (1 responses)

The need isn't urgent, yet, but I'm beginning to think about upgrading my
old Netgear rt314, 100Mbit Fast-Ethernet LAN side, but only 10Mbit, 10bT
Ethernet WAN side.

I'd need 100Mbit WAN side certainly, and would like dual WAN routing, tho
it's not mandatory. Wireless is NOT needed nor preferred, altho I suppose
if necessary I could buy a wireless router and simply disable wireless
functionality. Any hardware meeting these requirements that also supports
freedomware firmware?

Duncan

What about Linux on wired router appliances?

Posted Aug 20, 2005 11:24 UTC (Sat) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

LOL. Few facts:

  1. Linksys WRT54G has everything needed in hardware.
  2. It's firware does not have the necessary capability.
  3. With OpenWrt you have more-or-less general-purpose Linux box and Linux certainly can everything you want.

In short: Linksys WRT54G can do everything you need but only after special tweaking. How painfull it'll be depends from your familiarity with Linux's networking...


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