It's about time...
It's about time...
Posted Aug 4, 2005 4:36 UTC (Thu) by hp (guest, #5220)In reply to: It's about time... by jabby
Parent article: Our bloat problem
It's significant that most people don't _use_ the "lightweight" apps, though, unless they really genuinely don't have the compute power.
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/news/20020407.html
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000020.html
Solid element of truth there.
Posted Aug 4, 2005 5:09 UTC (Thu)
by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330)
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Posted Aug 4, 2005 5:53 UTC (Thu)
by hp (guest, #5220)
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Posted Aug 12, 2005 15:55 UTC (Fri)
by astrophoenix (guest, #13528)
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Posted Aug 12, 2005 23:28 UTC (Fri)
by obi (guest, #5784)
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(BTW Inkscape/GIMP start up in a fraction of the time needed for their commercial counterparts - which might have a bit more features, but I seriously doubt a lot of people use them)
Just to mention that it's not all bad.
Posted Aug 4, 2005 16:37 UTC (Thu)
by GreyWizard (guest, #1026)
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Meanwhile I'm typing on a 1.7 GHz laptop with 1GB of RAM where FC4 is quite snappy providing innumerable features I've come to think of as essential. Going back to RedHat 6 is simply not an option, even supposing it could be tricked into supporting the internal wireless card. Doing more with less is a worthy goal and I would be thrilled if some genius worked magic that made my iMac useful again, but until then I vote for bloat.
Posted Aug 4, 2005 20:47 UTC (Thu)
by jrigg (guest, #30848)
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I tried KDE recently after using WindowMaker and rxvt for the last few years. It was irritatingly slow even on a dual Opteron, so I reverted to my old setup. Maybe I'm impatient, but I prefer the speed of lightweight apps running on fast hardware.
Unfortunately, we lack lightweight apps that can deal with Microsoft file formats.
It's about time...
Not sure you could have them - the MS file formats require all the MS application features. The hard part of implementing the formats is coding the features that use the stuff in the file.It's about time...
my friend was writing her Ph.D. dissertation in microsoft word. now that she has to get it formatted
to pass the university, I'm helping her convert it to LaTeX (we found a LaTeX class for her university
to handle the formatting). the first step was to filter the .doc through
antiword, producing a nice ascii file. even the
tables came out nice. her 400 page .doc file was converted to ascii so fast that I wasn't sure it
worked at first!
anti-bloating microsoft docs
Well, unlike OpenOffice Abiword and Gnumeric feel very light. Opening an Excel file in Gnumeric has _never_ failed for me (in my personal experience, 100% compatible - maybe I haven't used difficult documents enough), and on my 800mhz machine startup is nearly instant. Abiword is a bit less compatible with Word than I'd like it to be, but it's definitely usable, produces very nice output in XHTML, is kept simple - nice!It's about time...
On my desk I have an old iMac from 1999 with 32MB of RAM. Last week I tried to install Fedora Core 4 to on the poor thing, only to discover that it took thirty seconds from the time I moved the mouse to the time anything happened on the screen. That was just in anaconda (the installation program)! I'll have to try again in text mode when I get the chance, but I doubt I'll be running Firefox on that machine.Exactly Right
>It's significant that most people don't It's about time...
>_use_ the "lightweight" apps, though,
>unless they really genuinely don't
>have the compute power.