OK, so now we have Linux running on everything...
OK, so now we have Linux running on everything...
Posted Jun 25, 2005 19:00 UTC (Sat) by tazmanmo55 (guest, #30674)In reply to: OK, so now we have Linux running on everything... by NAR
Parent article: Linux and the Top500
Wow! When was the last time YOU installed WinBlows and didn't have to use a third party or manufacturers disc to get all the hardware to work properly? Fully supported hardware means all I have to do is install the OS or add my new hardware and VOILA! ..... my new TV tuner card displays the tv program I want to watch or my new DLink wireless works without putting the OEM disc in the tray to install the missing DLL's, INF, or EXE files that come with my FULLY SUPPORTED HARDWARE OS! There isn't a single OS out there that doesn't need a "helping hand" every so often to get the desired results from a piece of hardware. Get a life. At least I was able to watch my Avermedia TV card, use my DLink wireless, grab photos from my Kodak DX4530, print and scan from my HP multi-function printer, etc, etc, etc.... without adding the missing "hardware supported" drivers. If it weren't for the hardware manufacturers "extras", you'd have an OS that comes with nothing. Hey, that sounds like WinBlows!
Posted Jun 25, 2005 20:30 UTC (Sat)
by NAR (subscriber, #1313)
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This year? OK, my AverMedia card doesn't work under Windows XP, but Linux crashes with the Nvidia kernel module and doesn't handle my MP3 player, so it's 2:1 to Windows :-( Now I go back to playing GTA3 - which is currently the killer application for me that decides which OS should I boot.
Posted Jun 26, 2005 2:33 UTC (Sun)
by JohnBell (guest, #12625)
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Posted Jun 26, 2005 5:56 UTC (Sun)
by einstein (subscriber, #2052)
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It just smells like FUD to me -
On the subject of games, all the games I like are native linux games - q3a, ut2004, doom3 etc. If there was a game I just had to play, and it wasn't available for linux, guess what? I'll buy a console, which is far less trouble and expense than having to buy into the whole microsoft routine just to play a game.
Posted Jun 26, 2005 5:58 UTC (Sun)
by einstein (subscriber, #2052)
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It just smells like FUD to me -
On the subject of games, all the games I like are native linux games - q3a, ut2004, doom3 etc. If there was a game I just had to play, and it wasn't available for linux, guess what? I'll buy a console, which is far less trouble and expense than having to buy into the whole microsoft routine just to play a game.
Posted Jun 26, 2005 11:11 UTC (Sun)
by dgc (subscriber, #6611)
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I used to think so, too, until I upgraded my 2 machines to
2.6 kernels. They'd been running the nvidia drivers for ~3 years
without any problems what-so-ever across 2.4.15-26.
Since I upgraded to 2.6.5 about 9 months ago, I haven't been able to
get the nvidia drivers to even boot X without locking the machine solid.
I started with the same driver release that worked just fine on 2.4
kernels. Since then I've tried every new driver release hoping that
they'd finally fixed the drivers to work properly on a 2.6.x kernel, but
they're still b0rked.
So now I'm using the nv driver because it just works. And I can't
replace the video card in my laptop...
just my 2c worth.
Posted Jun 26, 2005 16:53 UTC (Sun)
by einstein (subscriber, #2052)
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There are few things to check, i.e. whether you're using nvidia agp, or the in-kernel agp, if your BIOS setting for agp speed matches what your kernel is trying to use, whether your hardware is listed in the blacklist in the nvidia-installer-readme, which is BTW a very helpful doc if you're having any issues.
You might try also posting in the nvidia forums, they have some good linux people and are responsive.
When was the last time YOU installed WinBlows and didn't have to use a third party or manufacturers disc to get all the hardware to work properly?
OK, so now we have Linux running on everything...
But you're the exception, not the rule.OK, so now we have Linux running on everything...
I have a real hard time believing the story abou linux "crashing" with nvidia drivers. I've been running nvidia cards in linux for years, on a variety of x86 hardware, and it's always been rock solid. Seriously, I've never had any issue. ATI cards and DRM drivers, yeah they are unstable as hell, but linux on nvidia drivers has a perfect record on all the systems I know about.OK, so now we have Linux running on everything...
I have a real hard time believing the story abou linux "crashing" with nvidia drivers. I've been running nvidia cards in linux for years, on a variety of x86 hardware, and it's always been rock solid. Seriously, I've never had any issue. ATI cards and DRM drivers, yeah they are unstable as hell, but linux on nvidia drivers has a perfect record on all the systems I know about.Re: OK, so now we have Linux running on everything...
Re: OK, so now we have Linux running on everything...
I have a real hard time believing the story abou linux
"crashing" with nvidia drivers. I've been running nvidia cards in linux
for years, on a variety of x86 hardware, and it's always been rock solid.
Interesting. I don't deny that you might be having an issue, but without more info it's hard to know what might be happening with your system. The biggest factor is whether you're running a self-compiled kernel, and if so, what options, etc you chose. I know that when the kernel first switched to 4k stacks some time ago, it broke the nvidia drivers (along with a lot of other stuff) but nvidia stepped up and updated their drivers fairly quickly, so that shouldn't be an issue if you're trying current drivers.Re: OK, so now we have Linux running on everything...