Russ Nelson proposes new license requirements

Posted Mar 3, 2005 1:30 UTC (Thu) by LinuxLobbyist (guest, #6541)
In reply to: Russ Nelson proposes new license requirements by rickmoen
Parent article: Russ Nelson proposes new license requirements

The irony of this whole fiasco is that after reading a thread Russ started on slashdot in early February, I find his views on the FSF and RMS more offensive than his badly worded essay. For that reason, I don't think he should be the president of OSI. One can have disagreements with the FSF and RMS, but I don't think it's wise for the leader of OSI to be publically disparaging the hand the feeds it (e.g.: with much of the code we all use).

But I can still can't help but believe that you are spot on here, Rick, that this whole "Blacks are Lazy" fiasco has been nothing but a smear campaign (that, unfortunately, Russ invited with the inflamatory title and poorly thought out essay). Whatever you may think of Dave Horowitz, this sounds eerily similar to his experience with Al Franken calling him a racist (see here for Mr. Horowitz' response). It was an assertion that he backed up with exactly zero evidence. And humorous, to boot, when you take just a cursory look at David Horowitz' civil rights history.

And just so I'm not accused by anyone of hiding behind the safety of anonymity, I will sign with my real name. Not that I've kept it secret, as I use this handle on more than couple of sites.

-Paul Iadonisi
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Russ Nelson proposes new license requirements

Posted Mar 4, 2005 16:32 UTC (Fri) by rjw (guest, #10415) [Link] (1 responses)

Sorry, but I just had a very very cursory google about David Horowitz, and he really doesn't seem to be innocent of the charge. Most informative:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200412020001

He seems to be very capable of inexplicably branding people racist himself.
Of course, you could say that this is all a liberal/leftist conspiracy or something.

I don't think it is a very good example to bring up.... at least for someone you want to defend.

Russ Nelson proposes new license requirements

Posted Mar 5, 2005 1:10 UTC (Sat) by LinuxLobbyist (guest, #6541) [Link]

I don't think it is a very good example to bring up.... at least for someone you want to defend.

Hoping this is the last of this thread, but I just wanted to dispel this nonsense. I checked the link you posted. Even though Media Matters is not a place I would generally trust for good, scholarly analysis, I gave them the benefit of the doubt. I'm sorry to say that, in particular (but certaintly not limit to), their 'catalogued' instances of David Horowitz' racism was done in almost the precise same manner as the anonymous smearers in this thread. Unfortunately for MM, they actually provided links, probably in the hopes that most people wouldn't actually go and read what was on the other end of them. I did, and their arguments don't hold up.

Sorry, but it most certainly was a good example to bring up.

By the way, I didn't catch your name.

-Paul Iadonisi
 Senior System Administrator
 Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist
 Ever see a penguin fly?  --  Try Linux.
 GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets