I am moving to Gentoo...

Posted Feb 28, 2005 20:13 UTC (Mon) by b7j0c (guest, #27559)
In reply to: I am moving to Gentoo... by peace
Parent article: Gentoo Linux Is Coming into Its Own (eWeek)

>> Personaly I think it would be a sad day if talk gets delisted. Talk takes up about 20k on my Fedora system once installed

but that is my entire point, there is no discipline to remove more or less unused code because there is always someone who will say no. the size of the binary is not the issue - the issue is to take software out that people do not need to build a complete modern system. i can say with 100% certainty that talk is not required to fulfill this objective.

once again, you are confusing the code being removed from the CD release with the code being deleted from the universe. i still don't understand why seldom-used packages cannot be installed from the network. for packages the size of talk, this is a trivial issue even for someone with the worst connectivity. and frankly i don't think a mainstream distro should be designed with the string/tin-can crowd in mind as a target audience...these people are in a minority at this stage. let them build a "the entire universe on CDs" distro if they want and distribute it to the thousand or so users who would be interested.

I am moving to Gentoo...

Posted Mar 1, 2005 14:14 UTC (Tue) by bk (guest, #25617) [Link]

I agree with your basic point about talk and similar packages, however I think it would be a mistake to disregard users in less-fortunate economic circumstances ("third world" countries, etc). If only for strategic reasons if you don't care about the morals of it, remember that the most explosive growth in F/OSS is happening outside of the US. It would be foolish to throw that away.