Inside EuroBSDCon 2004 (O'ReillyNet)
Inside EuroBSDCon 2004 (O'ReillyNet)
Posted Nov 26, 2004 11:38 UTC (Fri) by ami.ganguli (guest, #9613)In reply to: Inside EuroBSDCon 2004 (O'ReillyNet) by nix
Parent article: Inside EuroBSDCon 2004 (O'ReillyNet)
Unlike the parent poster, I do know Mac users and even an OpenBSD user, but I'm also skeptical that there are really more BSD users than Linux users. It's not that Hubbard is a liar, it's just that there's no accurate way to measure Linux desktop use and he naturally hangs out with Mac people.
While I see a few Macs around too, Linux boxes are popping up all over the place. The other day I noticed that a local library had installed Linux-based Internet kiosks.
I can't think of a single techie where I work who doesn't at least dual boot to Linux (and several are full-time Linux with VMWare for Windows).
I suppose it's possible that there are enough graphic artists in the world to compensate for all this, but I'm not going to accept it as fact without some hard evidence.
Posted Nov 26, 2004 13:02 UTC (Fri)
by hppnq (guest, #14462)
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Not exactly a shining example of statistical analysis.
What bothers me more is Apple's apparent parasitic approach to BSD development. I don't know how much they've contributed to BSD, but what emerges from the article makes me very appreciative of the Linux community's no-nonsense approach: "You want feature X? Here's the kernel source, knock yourself out."
Posted Nov 26, 2004 15:07 UTC (Fri)
by eru (subscriber, #2753)
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I also find it a bit annoying how some BSD boosters, not just Hubbard, use Apple OS-X to "prove" that BSD is more popular on desktops than Linux. After all, from the point of view of users and developers, OS-X is merely another proprietary Unix variant with a proprietary GUI layer, and therefore in a completely different category from Linux, FreeBSD and other free OS'es.
It is also a quite different fork of BSD in that it sits on top of a microkernel, and therefore it has more trouble benefiting from, or contributing to "mainstream" BSD systems.
Posted Nov 27, 2004 5:44 UTC (Sat)
by gvy (guest, #11981)
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While Linux users somehow tend to ditch all those dualboots and emulations as annoying and superfluous in a quite short time like months to a year or two. :)
What's more disturbing is that they're actively yelling about *BSD left behind and out in the cold *but* do very little to actually help with it (rather than annoying people). I'm still to ask Ladislav what wording was applied to his inbox to make him add ", BSD" to DistroWatch.com's "Put fun back into computing, use Linux" motto -- still I'm suspective that I've seen that while performing Ukrainian Free Software Conference last fall -- a lot of yelling and one report out of 20 (by the person that somehow didn't yell but rather worked on pre-confiured FreeBSD-based LiveCD).
What a pity IBM people doing another report later mentioned that FreeBSD has indeed lost its chance to become a _platform_ due to non-willingness to collaborate with wider community and fanaticity to do everything in-house by 1337 commandos... and that most BSD folks still don't get it.
*sigh*
OS X, FreeBSD and BSD, as well as Red Hat and Linux, as well as "users", "sites" and "systems", as well as "systems connected to the internet" and "all installed systems on the planet" are interchanged happily in this article in order to arrive at the conclusion that BSD is the most popular Unix desktop system, and -- what the hell, we're on a roll here -- that BSD is more popular than Linux anyway.
Inside EuroBSDCon 2004 (O'ReillyNet)
Inside EuroBSDCon 2004 (O'ReillyNet)
Err... yeah, a bunch of FreeBSD users, one OpenBSD user and one casual NetBSD/Alpha user around (between Linux users here and there) -- but there's a tendency: FreeBS users can't really live without Windows 2000 and are prone to PuTTY and even Outlook.Inside EuroBSDCon 2004 (O'ReillyNet)