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Just ban non-technical discussions?

Just ban non-technical discussions?

Posted Oct 3, 2025 18:31 UTC (Fri) by zahlman (guest, #175387)
In reply to: Just ban non-technical discussions? by joepie91
Parent article: NixOS moderation team resigns

Thanks for your perspective.

> There are several online venues where I regularly discuss all of these topics, including sometimes very intense and fiery discussions, that are resolved constructively with a mutually increased understanding virtually every time. The crucial things that make it work are a basic set of shared moral values, a mutual interest in constructive discussion (as opposed to competitive 'debate'), and effective moderation to weed out people who deliberately use abusive tactics to incite conflict (mostly just relevant in the public rooms).

I once moderated for a community that I would consider very much like what you describe. It seemingly defied odds to survive for a while on a platform where a large fraction of the views expressed would otherwise have been verboten. (Generally, things that are likely outside of the Overton window of much of the developed world, but which would not rise to the level of "hate speech" in those countries — such language and rhetoric was and is definitely rejected.) Eventually it moved on to its own hosting (I had left well before that point, so I can't comment as to the reasons) and still seems to flourish — although, perhaps unsurprisingly, the "otherwise verboten" views are now dominant.

So, yes, these things are absolutely possible. I'm not even convinced that "shared moral values" are strictly necessary, as long as people are able to express those moral values clearly and distance the argument from the personal emotions it invokes.

But, the important part, I *absolutely would not want any of it to get anywhere near* any FOSS I'm involved in. It's blatantly irrelevant, and requires upholding a very particular conduct that most people with strong political opinions are simply uninterested in even attempting.


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