I think this was the right thing

Posted Oct 2, 2025 12:54 UTC (Thu) by koverstreet (✭ supporter ✭, #4296)
In reply to: I think this was the right thing by ferringb
Parent article: Bcachefs removed from the mainline kernel

Oh boy.

> An example of the context you're missing is https://lwn.net/Articles/1035736/ . That includes examples of what you think folks should do, and kernel folk commentary it's long since been doing. LKML ain't exactly the nicest place, for them to level a CoC, let alone someone's entire project being ejected from the kernel, this isn't something that is because of a one off.

Others have noted that incident was on the whole rather tame, even for what passes on LKML today (I'm reading the news on Phoronix right now, and - oh boy, the level of toxicity really hasn't changed) - and that screwup had pretty far reaching consequences.

And re: Debian, I was talking about issues bcachefs has had with release process, and you're somehow painting that as harassment?

That's pretty unbelievable.

Look, I think the actual harassment going on here is pretty clear, and it crowds out all the actual technical discussions we could be having.

I think this was the right thing

Posted Oct 2, 2025 23:36 UTC (Thu) by ferringb (subscriber, #20752) [Link]

I just want to point out the blatantly obvious here; you're arguing against my advice that people just read your damn posts and interactions. OP asked why people respond this way, why they don't engage in your arguments; that thread demonstrates why there is the communal pattern.

If you don't think people should read your flamewars to understand the interaction, don't flamewar.

> And re: Debian, I was talking about issues bcachefs has had with release process, and you're somehow painting that as harassment?
> That's pretty unbelievable.

https://lwn.net/Articles/1035890/ (people should read it in full). Also your general justification for taking unrelated, deeply pointless and technically unproductive, potshots/attacks: https://lwn.net/Articles/1035878/

> I think the actual harassment going on here is pretty clear,

Few things that harassment isn't:
* People disagreeing with your posts and behavior within a community, and engaging you disagreeing.
* Linking your own posts were you are attacking others
* Suggesting people read your thread interactions and make up their own damn mind (in particular, reading in full rather than just the 2 examples I gave as a synopsis).

This is a good stopping point; as I said, folks should just read https://lwn.net/Articles/1035736/ .