Popcon Dark Figure

Posted Sep 2, 2025 18:52 UTC (Tue) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523)
In reply to: Popcon Dark Figure by jzb
Parent article: Removing Guix from Debian

It is not 12 months, it is 20 days!
bookworm count is going down from 160000 because users are upgrading to Trixie

Popcon Dark Figure

Posted Sep 2, 2025 19:18 UTC (Tue) by jzb (editor, #7867) [Link] (1 responses)

I'm not sure where the 20 days figure comes from? I was looking at the "Statistics per distributions reporting to Debian" on the Stable reports tab: it says "Submissions by distributions (last 12 months)" in the bottom graph, with a figure of 134,711 on the left-hand side. I don't see any reports/graphs that are a 20-day time period on that page, nor on the other tab.

Popcon Dark Figure

Posted Sep 2, 2025 19:27 UTC (Tue) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523) [Link]

From the FAQ: <https://popcon.debian.org/FAQ>
The server automatically extracts the report from the email or HTTP and stores it in a database for a maximum of 20 days or until the host sends a new report.

So each days, only submissions younger than 20 days are considered for the statistic of the day.
The graphs are only provided to give an historical perspective. For example, that bookworm peaked at almost 16k submissions before the release of trixie.

Popcon Dark Figure

Posted Sep 3, 2025 7:38 UTC (Wed) by taladar (subscriber, #68407) [Link]

If a significant number of people using popcon have already updated to trixie they are likely unrepresentative of the majority of Debian users who are certainly less on the bleeding edge. It is too early for trixie to have support in all third party repositories and applications for a significant percentage of e.g. the server users to update to it already.