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Custom renderer?

Posted Jul 2, 2025 10:53 UTC (Wed) by malmedal (subscriber, #56172)
In reply to: Custom renderer? by brunowolff
Parent article: 15 Years of OsmAnd

In addition to what I explained to Cyberax, if you want
routing there's:

https://github.com/GIScience/openrouteservice

gives you walking and driving directions and various other nice things. GIScience also has a number of other nice projects for things like geocoding and reverse geocoding.

Sadly I don't have enough space on my phone to have this in addition to the maps, but if you're carrying a laptop you'll be fine.


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Custom renderer?

Posted Jul 2, 2025 13:42 UTC (Wed) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link] (5 responses)

> Sadly I don't have enough space on my phone to have this in addition to the maps, but if you're carrying a laptop you'll be fine.

Don't the latest phones have far more "memory" available than your typical laptop?

I might be out of date, but the recent laptops I looked at, many were 32/32 (32GB ram, 32GB SSD). Okay they were chromebooks, but the real laptops weren't much better.

Whereas your typical phone had no trouble whatsoever adding a 512GB microSD card ...

Cheers,
Wol

Custom renderer?

Posted Jul 2, 2025 14:13 UTC (Wed) by malmedal (subscriber, #56172) [Link] (4 responses)

As I understand it the cheap phones allow an SD card, while the expensive ones don't :) So I'm stuck with what the phone came with...

Custom renderer?

Posted Jul 2, 2025 14:30 UTC (Wed) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link] (3 responses)

> while the expensive ones don't

?????

Ouch!

Given I tend to buy high-end budget phones, I didn't realise that ... seems daft I can have more storage than you! Although I was aware high end phones tended to come with "unlimited cloud storage" ... what happens when you change phone?

Cheers,
Wol

Custom renderer?

Posted Jul 2, 2025 17:08 UTC (Wed) by malmedal (subscriber, #56172) [Link] (2 responses)

I believe the reason is that the current best internal UFS chips are 10-15 times faster than even the best SD cards, so the manufacturers don't want to have deal with the complaints about how a phone suddenly went like molasses.

SD cards in phones

Posted Jul 3, 2025 10:10 UTC (Thu) by farnz (subscriber, #17727) [Link] (1 responses)

There's three reasons to not put an SD slot in a phone:
  1. Users will use low quality SD cards (either remarked as a fast card, and sold cheaper than most fast cards, or deliberately because they want high volume storage for small money), and then complain about the phone being slow. Fine for a budget phone, not so good for a premium phone.
  2. Users will change the SD card, and then complain that their phone has lost data, because things they used to have "on their phone" have gone missing. This will, again, be blamed on the phone, and the user is unlikely to come back and admit it was a result of changing SD card - which makes the phone look bad.
  3. If you're building to a price point, there's storage capacities that are unsaleable - if you're looking at phones under £200, you're unlikely to be willing to pay an extra £100 for a phone with 1 TiB of storage instead of 128 GiB. If you're looking at the base model costing £1,000 (or more) for 256 GiB, paying an extra £300 to have 1 TiB of fast storage feels more reasonable. As a consequence, low end phones aren't sold with big internal storage, whereas high end phones are.

And, of course, there's the thing where someone who's paid £150 for a phone is less likely to be willing to pay £50/month for unlimited data, whereas someone spending £1,000 on a phone might well pay for unlimited data, and thus be more willing to rely on cloud storage for bulk data like photos and videos.

SD cards in phones

Posted Jul 7, 2025 12:28 UTC (Mon) by DrMcCoy (subscriber, #86699) [Link]

Parallel to 1., there's also still a chance of getting a counterfit card, especially if you buy from some third-party seller on Amazon or somesuch. Such an SD card will look like a genuine x GB card, report itself as such, but in actually have only a few GB (or even just MB) of actual storage that loops. So you're soon overwriting your own data.

I actually put such a card into my previous, cheaper phone, when I got it, several years ago. You'll see all sorts of weird errors then.


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