Suprised we aren't seeing more of this

Posted May 5, 2025 6:36 UTC (Mon) by niner (subscriber, #26151)
In reply to: Suprised we aren't seeing more of this by Cyberax
Parent article: Redis is now available under the AGPLv3 open source license (Redis blog)

You are again assuming that the only alternative to hyperscaler is 100 % do it yourself. However I did mention e.g. Firstcolo. You give them the desired specifications of machines you want to run, they procure them, install them and maintain the hardware including keeping spares and having those on-site people 24/7. They even offer to buy those machines for you and rent them out to you, so your cap ex stays low. And that's just one datacenter operator.

If you're intimidated by having to design and set up reliable systems, there are lots of companies (including my own) that can help you get up and running. We did the math - for customers - and they ended up saving a lot.

Suprised we aren't seeing more of this

Posted May 5, 2025 6:53 UTC (Mon) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

> You are again assuming that the only alternative to hyperscaler is 100 % do it yourself. However I did mention e.g. Firstcolo. You give them the desired specifications of machines you want to run, they procure them, install them and maintain the hardware including keeping spares and having those on-site people 24/7.

And this typically tops out at something like "1 rack, 1 gbit and no SLA" before it starts becoming expensive. "Remote hands" also are typically not responsible for anything more than checking cable connectivity and/or swapping hardware. If you want someone who actually understands your network topology and can debug complex issues, this starts getting really expensive.

I have done these kinds of calculations, and you absolutely can get cheaper than AWS (or Azure), but you won't get _much_ cheaper. Unless you have very specific needs like massive storage or a lot of egress traffic.

So not using hyperscalers is cheaper either if you have something small, or if you are VERY big.