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Posted Feb 5, 2025 19:48 UTC (Wed) by stephanlachnit (subscriber, #151361)
In reply to: Distributions by leephillips
Parent article: New horizons for Julia

I agree that for some software, package managers are not the best way to get it anymore. Like GUIs (use flatpak) Rust crates (use cargo) or even most Python packages (use pip).

But this is not true for the core languages. It would be horrible for user friendlyness if GCC or Python itself are not available in most distributions. It is already not ideal for Rust.

Sure, developers can and will use more upstream compiler / interpreter version, but if you get started or just want to compile / use software X, this should not be a requirement. This is where Julia fails.

I can even understand, that they complain about broke distro builds. But it is an entirely self-made problem: Julia's developer don't understand or don't want to understand how distros work, why their build system and bundling is horrible, and how that leads to broken builds. Almost every other relevant langauges manages to get the core language components in all major distros. Most even care about it. Except Julia.


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