Rambling

Posted Jan 31, 2025 9:28 UTC (Fri) by zdzichu (subscriber, #17118)
In reply to: Rambling by MKesper
Parent article: Resistance to Rust abstractions for DMA mapping

Oh well, let's thank Mr Hellwig for his huge contribution to Linux until now, and wish him success in his new endeavours beyond the kernel project.

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Posted Jan 31, 2025 10:10 UTC (Fri) by LtWorf (subscriber, #124958) [Link] (4 responses)

I think you overestimate the amount of capable kernel maintainers who can replace him.

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Posted Jan 31, 2025 12:38 UTC (Fri) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link]

> I think you overestimate the amount of capable kernel maintainers who can replace him.

Not to mention overestimating the nature of what can be done when you're not actually _employed_ by the ones wanting the changes.

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Posted Feb 2, 2025 3:02 UTC (Sun) by NYKevin (subscriber, #129325) [Link] (2 responses)

Frankly, I am starting to believe that this whole thing is a tempest in a teapot. The patch is now on version 11[1]. As far as I can tell, none of the responses to versions 9 through 11 contain any acknowledgement whatsoever that Christoph nacked version 8. Version 9 did introduce a MAINTAINERS entry for the new Rust stuff, despite Christoph specifically saying he didn't want another maintainer.

In other words, it would seem that everyone has tacitly agreed to totally ignore Christoph's objections, add maintainers for the Rust code, and move on as if nothing happened. Perhaps this comment section should do the same.

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20250123104333.134...

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Posted Feb 2, 2025 7:48 UTC (Sun) by intelfx (subscriber, #130118) [Link] (1 responses)

> Frankly, I am starting to believe that this whole thing is a tempest in a teapot. The patch is now on version 11[1]. As far as I can tell, none of the responses to versions 9 through 11 contain any acknowledgement whatsoever that Christoph nacked version 8. Version 9 did introduce a MAINTAINERS entry for the new Rust stuff, despite Christoph specifically saying he didn't want another maintainer.

As I understand, all three subsequent submissions (on January 21st and 23rd) happened well before the NAK (January 28th), so it doesn't seem like there is any final resolution to this story yet.

You're right, however, that it likely won't be helped by flaming in the LWN comment section.

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Posted Feb 2, 2025 18:22 UTC (Sun) by SLi (subscriber, #53131) [Link]

To me this sounds more like sides digging in before the real fight begins. Having said that, I do think—as someone with not very deep insight into kernel development dynamics—this is likely to be merged in one form or another, which is what the patch submitters are also counting on by continuing to develop it. And the "fight" may turn out to be over before it begins if Linus pulls the series, but... I actually suspect someone intervening to force a short discussion instead of just a fiat could be a better outcome for the community. Even if someone is behaving unreasonably, it might be better to take it as a scream for help.