Possible Distributions quote of the year

So it's new according to you? That's funny, because according to the rest of the universe dlopen is so incredibly old that even ancient and dusty parchments known as POSIX mention it: https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions...

But don't let facts get in the way of a good old baseless rant, by all means

> E.g. resolved breaking mDNS that has been working for decades

Works fine here, have you tried turning it off and on again?

> Or mount units that break with systemd's own philosophy of job supervision and don't support retries.

We use the interfaces that we are given, and proc/self/mountinfo was an absolutely horrid interface to work with, that doesn't work at any scale beyond trivial fixed mounts and is inherently racy. Now we got new and shiny APIs in the kernel, and as libmount from util-linux switches to it, the situation with mounts tracking should massively improve, especially in complex deployments. Yeah the situation sucked until now, no argument there.

> We actually have numbers. Alpine is mostly statically linked, and it's not that much larger in practice.

Yeah, because it ships nothing, it's basically busybox and a bunch of symlinks...

> I don't have to tear out my hair because the newest distro lacks the old version of OpenSSL that is not backwards compatible with the one that I used.

So the epitome of the Rust ecosystem can be summarized with "Let's use an old OpenSSL choke full of CVEs and with no security support whatsoever, that will surely cause no issue at all". That's a great advert. And then Rust fanboys wonder why people who need actually stable, secure and maintainable distributions have a problem with all of this...

> And dynamic linking can't reasonably work with languages like Rust or C++ with templates. The most advanced language that even tries that is Swift.

You say that it can't reasonably work, and then provide an example where it does reasonably work. That seems odd. But anyway it's an entirely self-inflicted problem: after the whole horrid mess of C++ templates, why oh why would anyone look at that and say "more please!" is something I cannot possibly fathom. But de gustibus, I guess.