Mozilla's new branding strategy
We teamed up with global branding powerhouse Jones Knowles Ritchie (JKR) to revamp our brand and revitalize our intentions across our entire ecosystem. At the heart of this transformation is making sure people know Mozilla for its broader impact, as well as Firefox. Our new brand strategy and expression embody our role as a leader in digital rights and innovation, putting people over profits through privacy-preserving products, open-source developer tools, and community-building efforts.
Posted Dec 5, 2024 15:24 UTC (Thu)
by rillian (subscriber, #11344)
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Posted Dec 5, 2024 15:32 UTC (Thu)
by mattdm (subscriber, #18)
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Refocus their ad-tech company entirely on context sensitive advertisement, and collect data showing advertisers that it works. As I understand it, there's no actual evidence that all this tracking and pinpoint demographic targeting actually has significant effect. It's just something ad salespeople can dazzle their customers with. Instead, place ads where they're actually relevant. If I'm shopping for a fridge, show me fridge ads when I'm reading articles about that. If I'm shopping for a camera, that's a good place for a camera ads. The current system shows me fridge ads after I've bought one, and camera ads when I don't care — and for that, we've got.... gestures around at world. Cory Doctorow has written a lot about this, and I remember something from the EFF. Mozilla could actually do some good here.
Posted Dec 5, 2024 16:22 UTC (Thu)
by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
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And shows me Canon accessories for my Nikon system ...
I always do my best to turn off targeted advertising - it's obviously targeted, and it's pretty much invariably "close but no cigar". Plus it absolutely ruins your search experience - once it's mis-understood you once, it's pretty much impossible to tell it it screwed up and it just repeats the same mistake again and again.
Surely my camera experience should be obvious - if I search for "Nikon Cameras" then the term "Nikon" is almost more important than term "Camera" - if the consumer is searching for a *named* *brand*, then that means that is what they are looking for!
Cheers,
Posted Dec 5, 2024 15:36 UTC (Thu)
by ceplm (subscriber, #41334)
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And yes, I was re-posting a couple of days ago Cory Doctorow’s statement that “Virtually every sentence that contains the word ‘brand’ is bullshit, and that one is no exception.” I feel really worried about Mozilla that they are getting down to these gimmicks.
Posted Dec 5, 2024 16:00 UTC (Thu)
by Lennie (subscriber, #49641)
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If not, then maybe it might also be better to know now than wait for the train to derail slowly.
Posted Dec 5, 2024 15:58 UTC (Thu)
by jhoblitt (subscriber, #77733)
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Posted Dec 5, 2024 18:04 UTC (Thu)
by brunowolff (guest, #71160)
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Posted Dec 15, 2024 8:45 UTC (Sun)
by smurf (subscriber, #17840)
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I have no idea if they'd be able to keep up with Web standards, bug fixes, etc., if that went missing.
Posted Jan 6, 2025 7:20 UTC (Mon)
by mrugiero (guest, #153040)
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Posted Dec 5, 2024 18:36 UTC (Thu)
by zdzichu (subscriber, #17118)
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Posted Dec 5, 2024 20:20 UTC (Thu)
by malmedal (subscriber, #56172)
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Posted Dec 5, 2024 20:34 UTC (Thu)
by hailfinger (subscriber, #76962)
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Posted Dec 5, 2024 20:42 UTC (Thu)
by malmedal (subscriber, #56172)
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Posted Dec 5, 2024 21:49 UTC (Thu)
by hailfinger (subscriber, #76962)
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Posted Dec 5, 2024 19:46 UTC (Thu)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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For those who don't know, the joke is this:
A government official is retiring, and he tells his successor: "I left you three envelopes in the desk drawer. Open them one-by-one at the time of the great need".
Time passes, a crisis comes, and the successor opens the first envelope. It says: "Blame me". So he blames the retired predecessor, and for a time everything works fine.
Then another crisis comes, and he opens the second envelope. This time it's: "Start reorganization/reforms". And this indeed helps for a while.
And then eventually the time comes for the third envelope. So he opens it. And the advice is: "Prepare three envelopes".
Posted Dec 5, 2024 19:53 UTC (Thu)
by adobriyan (subscriber, #30858)
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It looks like a flag detaching from a pole. It describes the state Mozilla in _precisely_.
Posted Dec 5, 2024 22:34 UTC (Thu)
by excors (subscriber, #95769)
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It's not meant to be a letter - it's a logo that incorporates an M and represents a flag, and also represents the neck and head of a godzilla if you squint a bit, which is cute. More interesting and distinctive than the black-and-white "m" or "moz://a" they used before, and more readable as an icon than the detailed godzilla-head they used before that.
I like that more than the font, which I feel is hard to read because the descenders are far too short (especially on the 'p' - it looks much too similar to an 'o'). That's mainly a problem in the sample on the blog post, though - the versions used on https://www.mozilla.org/ look almost okay to me.
Posted Dec 5, 2024 22:38 UTC (Thu)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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I can see the 90-degree rotated "M" now that you pointed it, but I certainly don't see a lizard. On the other hand, if you look at the black part of the logo, it looks like a mad screaming duck.
I honestly can't see how they could have managed a worse logo. At least they haven't touched the Firefox logo.
Posted Dec 5, 2024 23:11 UTC (Thu)
by excors (subscriber, #95769)
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It sounds like you do see it - ducks are dinosaurs, closely related to T. rex (both being theropods), and Mozilla has traditionally used a T. rex interpretation of Godzilla, so they're pretty much the same animal. Just imagine the duck is _really_ mad, and about 100m tall, and radioactive.
Posted Dec 8, 2024 13:42 UTC (Sun)
by sammythesnake (guest, #17693)
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I'm a little surprised that this didn't occur to me before now (and as is so often the case, now is too late to be of use(!)) but it would have been cool to use that as the "scheme" part of the address for settings etc. instead of "chrome://" or "about:/"
A nice subtle joke for a random few nerds who'd spot the reference :-P
Posted Dec 5, 2024 20:32 UTC (Thu)
by hailfinger (subscriber, #76962)
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The flag-planting animation is certainly bold, for planting flags usually is done when land is conquered.
The "related articles" at the bottom of the rebranding announcement page are right now:
Wondering what (surely laudable) food-related companies have to do with Mozilla, I stumbled upon this explanation quoted straight from the Mozilla website:
Those are apparently the most relevant articles related to the rebranding. Mozilla surely see themselves activists, but the announcement is almost devoid of non-generic content on what they're trying to achieve.
I really hope they'll continue to ship a browser. The words "browser" and "Firefox" were mentioned only once in the whole announcement. Firefox is a really nice browser and I would love to continue using it in the future.
Posted Dec 5, 2024 21:57 UTC (Thu)
by gus3 (guest, #61103)
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Posted Dec 6, 2024 0:28 UTC (Fri)
by Tobu (subscriber, #24111)
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"Related articles" just shows the three newest articles in the Mozilla category.
Apparently there's a Chicago blog in there; whatever.
Now that I looked I'd rather not associate blog.mozilla.org with Mozilla or Firefox. Google is doing a better job distancing itself and Chrome from the adtech smell, despite being arguably a rebranded Doubleclick.
Posted Dec 6, 2024 11:12 UTC (Fri)
by paulj (subscriber, #341)
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> planting flags usually is done when land is conquered
Fairly rare that land is conquered. Flags much more commonly are used to give identity to places and groups of people, and to rally people / troops around. Identity and rallying people around to a shared cause is the historical common use of flags, and what most would think of and what mozilla is referencing, I'd suspect.
Posted Dec 12, 2024 1:07 UTC (Thu)
by viro (subscriber, #7872)
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Posted Dec 7, 2024 13:40 UTC (Sat)
by Che0t (subscriber, #125738)
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branding
One thing that would actually reassure me...
One thing that would actually reassure me...
Wol
Nicely green!
Nicely green!
what did this cost?
They aren't really about privacy
They aren't really about privacy
They aren't really about privacy
Font is nice
Font is nice
Font is nice
Not really, I really don't want all chars same width in normal text. i and i being the same width but not the same as X is new I believe.
Font is nice
Font is nice
RIP
RIP
RIP
RIP
RIP
RIP
Food blogging, pandas and flags?
Starting with
> revitalize our intentions across our entire ecosystem
meaning their intentions were almost dead and needed some new life. And what are intentions across an ecosystem?
> the new brand empowers people to speak up, come together and build a happier, healthier internet
If a brand empowers people, that's quite a feat. Funnily they claimed to empower people even before this rebranding, not sure what changed now.
> At the heart of this transformation is making sure people know Mozilla for its broader impact, as well as Firefox.
That almost sounds like Firefox is not having an impact.
> "Celebrating 20 years of Firefox with 20 red panda cams"
> "Huwa: From a WhatsApp group to sharing Palestinian olive oil with the world"
> "La Humita: 20 years of authentic Ecuadorian flavors in Chicago"
> Through Solo, Mozilla’s free AI-powered website creator, they’re exploring new corners of their community online.
"AI + (whatever) = success!", says AI
Food blogging, pandas and flags?
Food blogging, pandas and flags?
Food blogging, pandas and flags?
Why do not spend these money on making the main product better?