v3 unusable for me

Posted Dec 3, 2024 20:26 UTC (Tue) by pizza (subscriber, #46)
In reply to: v3 unusable for me by paulj
Parent article: GIMP 3.0 — a milestone for open-source image editing

> That's a fix for vim. It doesn't fix the fact that Wayland still breaks long-standing desktop integration protocols.

By "longstanding desktop integration protocols" you mean "All of X11 (and its innumerable extensions)"

Wayland _does_ have an answer (ie protocol) for tackling this particular problem, but it's not their fault vim still hasn't implemented it.

> A lot of this could be fixed if Xwayland was just a completely seamless part of Wayland. But for some reason it is not.

The "some reason here" is the same problem one runs into when running multiple/nested X11 sessions -- clipboard synchronization between them won't happen without explicit synchronization.

The technical explanation here is that xwayland automatically synchronizes the wayland and x11 clipboards... but only if the clipboard operation comes from a window that has focus. The vim-in-a-terminal doesn't have a window to be in focus, therefore the synchronization doesn't happen. Note that graphical-vim doesn't actually interact with the wayland clipboard either! There's no technical reason why that can't be done (as evidenced by those plugins) -- they just haven't written/integrated the code to do that yet.

v3 unusable for me

Posted Dec 5, 2024 4:30 UTC (Thu) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198) [Link]

> they just haven't written/integrated the code to do that yet.

There have been a lot of words written in this thread but these seem to be the most relevant ones, and ones that everyone agrees on, there is all the pieces of a way for clipboard integration with apps through the terminal that works remotely but it hasn't all been wired up yet in a way that works for Wayland everywhere that has been implemented for X11, so edge cases and workflows exist that work with X and not Wayland, which was the original question. I'm not sure what more can be said, it's not really that surprising, X has been around for nearly 40y and has had ? billions? poured into the ecosystem over that time, Wayland has a small team and a fraction of the resources, although they have the benefit of knowing their requirements before they started.