Ubuntu 8.10 release candidate available
| From: | Steve Langasek <steve.langasek-AT-ubuntu.com> | |
| To: | ubuntu-announce-AT-lists.ubuntu.com | |
| Subject: | Announcing the Release Candidate for Ubuntu 8.10 | |
| Date: | Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:55:36 -0700 | |
| Message-ID: | <20081023225536.GI20550@dario.dodds.net> |
The Ubuntu team is pleased to announce the Release Candidate for Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop and Server. Codenamed "Intrepid Ibex", 8.10 continues Ubuntu's proud tradition of integrating the latest and greatest open source technologies into a high-quality, easy-to-use Linux distribution. We consider this release candidate to be complete, stable, and suitable for testing by any user. Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop Edition delivers the features you need for an increasingly mobile digital life, including 3G wireless support and guest sessions that lets users temporarily share computers without compromising security. Ubuntu 8.10 Server Edition consolidates its support for virtualization with an integrated Virtual Machine builder, and brings with it a fully-supported Java stack and support for per-user directory encryption. The Ubuntu 8.10 family of variants, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, UbuntuStudio, and Mythbuntu, also reach RC status today. The final release of Ubuntu 8.10 is scheduled for 30 October 2008 and will be supported for 18 months on both desktops and servers. Users requiring a longer support lifetime may choose to continue using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, with security support until 2011 on the desktop and 2013 on the server, rather than upgrade to 8.10. Before installing or upgrading to Ubuntu 8.10 please read http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 About The Release Candidate --------------------------- The purpose of the Release Candidate is to solicit one last round of testing before the final release. Here are ways that you can help: * Upgrade from Ubuntu, Kubuntu, or Edubuntu 8.04 to the Release Candidate by following the instructions in the release notes referenced above. * Participate in installation testing using the Release Candidate CD images, by following the testing and reporting instructions at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO Desktop features ---------------- Xorg 7.4 brings improved support for automatic configuration of input hardware, such as keyboards and mice. 3G support: Network Manager 0.7 comes with a number of greatly anticipated features, including management of 3G connections (GSM/CDMA) and PPP/PPPoE connnections. Guest sessions: the User Switcher panel applet provides a new option for starting a Guest session. This creates a temporary, password-less user account with restricted privileges - perfect for lending out your laptop for a quick email check. Server features --------------- Encrypted private directories: the installer now offers the option to configure a secret encrypted folder for each user, to be unlocked and mounted at login time, using ecryptfs. Virtualization: Ubuntu 8.10 ships with a Virtual Machine builder that allows complete Virtual Machines to be built from the command line in less than five minutes, with support for scripting custom virtual images. Java: a complete free Java? stack is supported in Ubuntu 8.10, including OpenJDK and Apache Tomcat 6.0, making Ubuntu a great choice for Java development and deployment. Kubuntu features ---------------- Kubuntu builds on the groundwork of the Kubuntu 8.04 KDE 4 Remix to provide a fully-supported KDE 4 desktop in Kubuntu 8.10. Please see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidIbex/RC/Kubuntu for details. Xubuntu features ---------------- Xubuntu comes with the light-weight Xfce 4.4.2 desktop environment for those who want a desktop that is easy to use, but places particular emphasis on conserving system resources. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex/RC/Xubuntu for further details. UbuntuStudio features --------------------- Ubuntu Studio includes the updates to input hardware and sound device management from Ubuntu Desktop, and includes a complete suite of tools for generation of audio, video, and graphic content. Mythbuntu features ------------------ See http://mythbuntu.org/8.10/rc for information about the Mythbuntu release candidate. A more complete tour of the features new in 8.10 can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/810rc About Ubuntu ------------ Ubuntu is a full-featured Linux distribution for desktops, laptops, and servers, with a fast and easy installation and regular releases. A tightly-integrated selection of excellent applications is included, and an incredible variety of add-on software is just a few clicks away. Professional technical support is available from Canonical Limited and hundreds of other companies around the world. For more information about support, visit http://www.ubuntu.com/support To Get the Ubuntu 8.10 Release Candidate CD ------------------------------------------- To perform a new installation or try out 8.10 "live" from CD, download the Ubuntu 8.10 Release Candidate (choose the mirror closest to you): Africa: * http://bw.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10 (Botswana) * http://ls.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10 (Lesotho) * http://mz.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10 (Mozambique) * http://sz.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10 (Swaziland) * http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-release/8.10 (South Africa) * http://zw.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10 (Zimbabwe) Asia: * http://ftp.cse.yzu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Ubuntu/ubuntu-cd/8.10 (Taiwan) * http://tw.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10 (Taiwan) * http://ftp.tcc.edu.tw/iso/Ubuntu/8.10 (Taiwan) Europe: * http://ubuntu.mirrors.skynet.be/pub/ubuntu.com/releases/8.10 (Belgium) * http://wwwftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/8.10 (France) * http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/ubuntu.iso/8.10 (Germany) * http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10 (Ireland) * http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10 (Netherlands) * http://es.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10 (Spain) * http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10 (Sweden) North America: * http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/8.10 (Canada) * http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/8.10 (United States) * http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.10 (United States) Oceania/Australia: * http://ubuntu-releases.optus.net/8.10 (Australia) * http://ftp.citylink.co.nz/ubuntu-releases/8.10 (New Zealand) * http://nz2.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10 (New Zealand) South America: * http://ubuntu.c3sl.ufpr.br/releases/8.10 (Brazil) * http://espelhos.edugraf.ufsc.br/ubuntu-releases/8.10 (Brazil) Rest of the world: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10 (Great Britain) Please download using Bittorrent if possible. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BitTorrent for more information about using Bittorrent. Upgrading from Ubuntu 8.04 LTS ------------------------------ To upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10 Release Candidate from Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades Feedback and Helping -------------------- If you would like to help shape Ubuntu, take a look at the list of ways you can participate at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate/ Your comments, bug reports, patches and suggestions will help turn this Release Candidate into the best release of Ubuntu ever. Please report bugs through the Launchpad bug tracker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs If you have a question, or if you think you may have found a bug but are not sure, first try asking on the #ubuntu IRC channel on FreeNode, on the Ubuntu Users mailing list, or on the Ubuntu forums: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ More Information ---------------- You can find out more about Ubuntu and about this preview release on our website, IRC channel and wiki. If you are new to Ubuntu, please visit: http://www.ubuntu.com/ To sign up for future Ubuntu announcements, please subscribe to Ubuntu's very low volume announcement list at: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce -- ubuntu-announce mailing list ubuntu-announce@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce
Posted Oct 25, 2008 18:21 UTC (Sat)
by einstein (guest, #2052)
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Posted Oct 25, 2008 22:58 UTC (Sat)
by alspnost (guest, #2763)
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Posted Oct 25, 2008 23:21 UTC (Sat)
by jlokier (guest, #52227)
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I daren't upgrade, as downgrading isn't a practical option after upgrading, and the old (reliable) kernel is unlikely to work properly with an otherwise Intrepid system. Which is a shame, as I fancy some of the new apps.
Posted Oct 26, 2008 1:58 UTC (Sun)
by madscientist (subscriber, #16861)
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I don't know why you would think so. My dad's laptop hasn't worked properly with any kernel since Feisty. I've upgraded that system to every new release; I just keep using the Feisty kernel (2.6.20). Works fine.
Posted Oct 26, 2008 8:15 UTC (Sun)
by tajyrink (subscriber, #2750)
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Optimal functioning of the kernel depend on a number of user-space tools, thus the experience from running Intrepid's kernel on Hardy might not reflect the real situation.
That said, if you're using _Long-Term Supported_ release and you are even happy with it, please consider staying with it :) That's what the LTS releases are for.
Posted Oct 31, 2008 3:47 UTC (Fri)
by jlokier (guest, #52227)
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All of the kernel bugs I found, and described above, were in late beta kernels, but by the time of the official release just two weeks later, they all seem to be fixed. That's very good considering how many tricky ones there were. Even the subtle ftrace bug was implicated and fixed in the time window :-)
I took the plunge and am now happily using Intrepid with an Intrepid kernel. :-)
Posted Oct 26, 2008 10:08 UTC (Sun)
by muwlgr (guest, #35359)
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Posted Oct 26, 2008 13:57 UTC (Sun)
by Richard_J_Neill (subscriber, #23093)
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Unfortunately, it seems as though KDE3 is being allowed to bitrot (lots of apps crash frequently, or behave weirdly), and KDE4 is still really an alpha release.
Posted Oct 26, 2008 15:46 UTC (Sun)
by mb (subscriber, #50428)
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They should have ported stuff to QT4 without trying to do it all at once.
Posted Oct 28, 2008 13:57 UTC (Tue)
by Janne (guest, #40891)
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Well, so is KDE3. I mean, they just released a new version of KDE3. KDE4
I remember running KDE2 when it was released. It was crashy and many things
Now we have KDE4, which is still (for all intents and purposes) fresh out
People are now comparing KDE4, with boatload of new ideas, technologies,
It kinda reminds me of GNOME2-release. The whining was deafening back then.
You might have something to worry about if the project was standing still
Just relax you all. It will be insanely great :).
Posted Oct 26, 2008 17:34 UTC (Sun)
by mgb (guest, #3226)
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Posted Oct 27, 2008 6:53 UTC (Mon)
by kragil (guest, #34373)
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You can always keep using 8.04 which has 3.5.10 now.
Or just switch to Debian Lenny.
Kubuntu had to move on at some point and a most people think that time has definately come.
Posted Oct 28, 2008 14:07 UTC (Tue)
by Janne (guest, #40891)
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Sure it is. I'm running it on my laptop, and I can't really see any major
It's like the complaints about GNOME2 vs. the "old GNOME". Or OS X vs. Mac
KDE4 is now 10 months old. 10 months. Give it time. It's growing fast :).
Posted Oct 26, 2008 18:09 UTC (Sun)
by khim (subscriber, #9252)
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It's not so hard to port KDE3 to QT4 (oh, it's still one or two man-
years, but nothing compared to KDE4 creation), but... what are the
benefits? If you just port KDE3 to QT4 then you are getting version
which has worst properties from two worlds: it's not binary-compatible with
KDE3 and it does not have any new properties. Time will tell if this rewrite was needed or not, but if this rewrite
was to happen then MUST have been done in parallel to QT3=>QT4 transition.
There are just not enough developers to develop two versions of KDE... KDE4 is actually pretty nice if you are looking at it from POV of newbie
and don't expect it to have all the bells and whistles from KDE3. Thus I
think KDE4 is ALREADY mature enough - it's just most old users expect to
have KDE3 forever, but they are getting something different instead...
Posted Oct 27, 2008 10:20 UTC (Mon)
by modernjazz (guest, #4185)
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At least on my installation, it's much nicer than that. Problem-free? No.
For me it works pretty well actually, well enough that the improved
Posted Oct 28, 2008 20:17 UTC (Tue)
by ski_phreak (guest, #54921)
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I love the speed and efficiency of KDE4. Even with a lot of effects turned on, it's fast and stable. Especially impressive since my nVidia card has only 128 megs.
Some of the new look & feel doesn't do much for me, but doesn't get in the way either. It's just DIFFERENT. I've been years on ubuntu with the KDE(3) package installed on top. Of COURSE it's different.
I have 2 problems that I would love help with, though.
1) Syncronizing my Palm. Kpilot and KDEpim used to work so flawlessly together. It was better than the software from Palm, Handspring, and LOADS better than anything that forces you to sync with Outlook.
Since loading a clean install of kubuntu w/ kde4, I've tried opensync, kitchensync, multisync, kpilot and even Palm's Hotsync running through wine. Kpilot and multisync both crash. Kitchensync will mostly sync calendar and contacts, but refuses to install files.
PIM is a must-have for me.
Does anyone know a way to get Kpilot working in KDE4 with the KDEpim suite?
2) Scanning requires root priveleges. This problem occurred in the last few udev updates even before KDE4. It's not mission critical, but I'd love to not have to sudo every time I scan, and have to chown and chgrp all the images before I can use them as non-root.
Any help will be appreciated a lot.
ski_phreak
Posted Oct 30, 2008 17:29 UTC (Thu)
by drX (guest, #54975)
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Posted Oct 31, 2008 7:27 UTC (Fri)
by ski_phreak (guest, #54921)
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I tried Kubuntu this time not only to minimize the unnecessary gnome stuff, but also for better integration of Adept package monitoring. (Only seemed to work properly when running gnome, not KDE.)
Maybe I'll trying installing/using the gnome PIM stuff in KDE, or even Evolution.
If any readers have suggestions--especially gotchas to avoid, I'd love to hear them.
Thanks as always for the support and comraderie. (Komraderie? Gnomeraderie..?)
ski_phreak
Posted Nov 6, 2008 1:55 UTC (Thu)
by undefined (guest, #40876)
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i like the minimalism while still using a gui (as compared to pilot-xfer & mutt ;-). but then again i use emacs/jmacs, rxvt, & midnight commander as compared to their "desktop environment" brethren, so maybe "different strokes for different folks".
Posted Nov 12, 2008 7:53 UTC (Wed)
by ski_phreak (guest, #54921)
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Seriously, though, here's a strange update for kpilot/korganizer and KDE4.
After nudzhing every $#*&! setting I could twiddle, I discovered that I can sync my calendar and addresses if I *DON'T* sync notes and memos.
In kpilot, settings->configure kpilot->conduits. I unchecked everything except addressbook, calendar, and to-dos. I'll have to see what else I can find in the next few weeks.
ski_phreak
Posted Nov 12, 2008 11:06 UTC (Wed)
by ski_phreak (guest, #54921)
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I've been messing with kpilot and the kdepim (which only appears inthe KDE4 menus as kontact) most of the night.
Korganizer (the calendar part) seems buggy, but useable. I have not yet played with getting the memos and notes to sync.
1) quit all background daemons (korganizer and kmail have one)
note: kwallet and some gmail/gcalendar sync tools crashed me....but once I gave kwallet the passwords it needed, the 2nd sync worked.
5) close kpilot (you may want to check with system monitor or top)
** GOTCHAS RE: DEFAULT CALENDARS **
the fix is simple, but non-intuitive.
Posted Nov 15, 2008 15:18 UTC (Sat)
by ski_phreak (guest, #54921)
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I've enabled file-transfer in kpilot. Still humming along great. I have not yet tackled the Memo/Write problem. I'll keep you posted.
I'm using the standard stuff in kubuntu's Hardy repositories. For reference, here's the software versions I'm using:
Kontact
KAddressBook
KOrganizer
KPilot Information
ski_phreak
Posted Oct 31, 2008 13:32 UTC (Fri)
by jriddell (subscriber, #3916)
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As noted in the final announce, if you want to stick with KDE 3 then do stay with 8.04
Hardy was intended as a stable-and-boring release, Intrepid is a cutting-edge-exciting
Ubuntu 8.10 release candidate available
Sigh ... same theme, same problems. In late 2008 on a 2.6.27 kernel, my Intel PRO/E network card can still only run at *10* Mbps. Well, strictly it can run at 100 Mbps, but only for about 1 second before it falls over and starts flapping again. Anyway have any clues on this one? I mean, this is *dead common* hardware and I just can't believe no-one else has seen this. Even on the dreaded Vi$ta it works properly!
Ubuntu 8.10 release candidate available
Ubuntu 8.10 release candidate available
Ubuntu 8.10 release candidate available
> upgrading, and the old (reliable) kernel is unlikely to work properly
> with an otherwise Intrepid system.
Ubuntu 8.10 release candidate available
Ubuntu 8.10 release candidate available
Ubuntu 8.10 release candidate available
Will have to move back to my once-favorite Debian-unstable.
re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped
re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped
KDE4 seems to be the never ending story.
re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped
has now existed for... what, 10 months? And people are already calling it
"never-ending story"? Linux has existed about 16 years, and it isn't
finished yet either. And what about Emacs?
didn't work right. KDE3 was a smoother release, since the amount of changes
weren't as big as it was between KDE1 and KDE2, but it too was crashy and
had parts that didn't work right.
the oven. And it works well. Maybe not perfect, but well. Is it 1:1 equal
to KDE3? Of course not. But that does not mean that it's worse. It means
that it's different. Some things are still lacking, and some other things
are clearly superior, when compared to KDE3.
apps and code, all wrapped up in a 10 month old release, to KDE3.5, which
is result of _years_ of developement.
But the GNOME-team went ahead and created something great. And now it's
been a whopping 10 months, and people are already acting like KDE has been
utterly ruined or something like that. 4.1 was a huge step forward, and
looking at 4.2, I can see that it's equally huge step forward, if not even
bigger.
or if user-requests were being ignored. But the way it seems to me, the
team is busy adding all the missing features, polishing the system and
killing bugs. The speed of development is so fast that it's insane.
re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped
re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped
re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped
issues. I think the complaint about KDE4 not being "ready" is about KDE4
not being identical to KDE3. Well, it will never be.
OS9. The change was substantial, and people complained. But in the end, the
result was a system that was clearly superior than the old.
Why the hell anyone will want THIS?
I cannot understand why KDE4 wasn't made by first porting KDE3
to QT4, before dramatically breaking everything!
re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped
But I've been noticing that a number of the things that I thought were bugs
turn out to be settings that just don't all quite get properly migrated
over from a kde3 installation.
functionality of some of the programs (okular being a prime example) is
already proving to be a net win.
re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped
re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped
re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped
PIM apps
PIM apps
re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped
2) launch kpilot
3) disable everything except calendar, contacts and to-dos
4) sync
6) launch kontact and *WAIT* for all activity to stop before clicking anything. Korganizer seems especially prone to crashes while fetching mail and redrawing its calendar at the same time.
1) KDE's default calendar seems to replicate events every time it's synced.
2) syncing w/o any calendar set as default only works from PC->to->PDA
3) create your own calendar(s) (I've got Mine, Hers, Church, and Quintet)
4) set one of your new calendars as default (so things will sync to PDA)
5) delete KDE's default calendar so your events won't replicate.
re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped
Version 1.2.9
Version 3.5.10
Version 3.5.9
Version 4.9.4-3510
Ubuntu 8.10 release candidate available
> Will have to move back to my once-favorite Debian-unstable.
(Hardy).
release. There is no automatic upgrade offered for this reason. Use whichever it right for
you.