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re: Kubuntu - KDE3 droppedre: Kubuntu - KDE3 droppedPosted Oct 28, 2008 20:17 UTC (Tue) by ski_phreak (guest, #54921)In reply to: re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped by modernjazz Parent article: Ubuntu 8.10 release candidate available
Pros, Cons and HELP, please!
I love the speed and efficiency of KDE4. Even with a lot of effects turned on, it's fast and stable. Especially impressive since my nVidia card has only 128 megs.
Some of the new look & feel doesn't do much for me, but doesn't get in the way either. It's just DIFFERENT. I've been years on ubuntu with the KDE(3) package installed on top. Of COURSE it's different.
I have 2 problems that I would love help with, though.
1) Syncronizing my Palm. Kpilot and KDEpim used to work so flawlessly together. It was better than the software from Palm, Handspring, and LOADS better than anything that forces you to sync with Outlook.
Since loading a clean install of kubuntu w/ kde4, I've tried opensync, kitchensync, multisync, kpilot and even Palm's Hotsync running through wine. Kpilot and multisync both crash. Kitchensync will mostly sync calendar and contacts, but refuses to install files.
PIM is a must-have for me.
Does anyone know a way to get Kpilot working in KDE4 with the KDEpim suite?
2) Scanning requires root priveleges. This problem occurred in the last few udev updates even before KDE4. It's not mission critical, but I'd love to not have to sudo every time I scan, and have to chown and chgrp all the images before I can use them as non-root.
Any help will be appreciated a lot.
ski_phreak
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re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped Posted Oct 30, 2008 17:29 UTC (Thu) by drX (guest, #54975) [Link]
I am in the same boat. I am a bit frustrated that Kpilot stopped working even in Kubuntu 8.04 (trying the new KDE 4 packages broke it). PIM for me is also essential. I like eye candy and it is the main reason I decided to use KDE over GNOME when I switched from Windows. I will have to reinstall Kubuntu 8.04 in order to have Kpilot working again with Kontact. I really like the package management of (K)ubuntu and would like to stick to it, so maybe I will end up installing Ubuntu 8.10 with Gnome (which by the way, has Gnome-Pilot that works beautifully with my palm TX and Evolution). Gnome is OK but my KDE 3.5.10 was working perfectly until Kpilot got bad with the updates.
re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped Posted Oct 31, 2008 7:27 UTC (Fri) by ski_phreak (guest, #54921) [Link]
It's good to know the PIM works in Gnome. So far it's the only work-around I've heard of. My first (k)ubuntu was ubuntu+KDE. I use so many packages dependent on gnome (gnucash, gimp, gqview, grip....) that it made sense.
I tried Kubuntu this time not only to minimize the unnecessary gnome stuff, but also for better integration of Adept package monitoring. (Only seemed to work properly when running gnome, not KDE.)
Maybe I'll trying installing/using the gnome PIM stuff in KDE, or even Evolution.
If any readers have suggestions--especially gotchas to avoid, I'd love to hear them.
Thanks as always for the support and comraderie. (Komraderie? Gnomeraderie..?)
ski_phreak
PIM apps Posted Nov 6, 2008 1:55 UTC (Thu) by undefined (guest, #40876) [Link]
not trying to convince you to abandon kde or gnome, but as an alternative: i use jpilot & sylpheed.
i like the minimalism while still using a gui (as compared to pilot-xfer & mutt ;-). but then again i use emacs/jmacs, rxvt, & midnight commander as compared to their "desktop environment" brethren, so maybe "different strokes for different folks".
PIM apps Posted Nov 12, 2008 7:53 UTC (Wed) by ski_phreak (guest, #54921) [Link]
...well now, I just don't know how much credence I can give to somone who uses emacs instead of vi or vim.... <big_grin>
Seriously, though, here's a strange update for kpilot/korganizer and KDE4.
After nudzhing every $#*&! setting I could twiddle, I discovered that I can sync my calendar and addresses if I *DON'T* sync notes and memos.
In kpilot, settings->configure kpilot->conduits. I unchecked everything except addressbook, calendar, and to-dos. I'll have to see what else I can find in the next few weeks.
ski_phreak
re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped Posted Nov 12, 2008 11:06 UTC (Wed) by ski_phreak (guest, #54921) [Link]
An ugly workaround, I thinnk!
I've been messing with kpilot and the kdepim (which only appears inthe KDE4 menus as kontact) most of the night.
Korganizer (the calendar part) seems buggy, but useable. I have not yet played with getting the memos and notes to sync.
1) quit all background daemons (korganizer and kmail have one)
note: kwallet and some gmail/gcalendar sync tools crashed me....but once I gave kwallet the passwords it needed, the 2nd sync worked.
5) close kpilot (you may want to check with system monitor or top)
** GOTCHAS RE: DEFAULT CALENDARS **
the fix is simple, but non-intuitive.
re: Kubuntu - KDE3 dropped Posted Nov 15, 2008 15:18 UTC (Sat) by ski_phreak (guest, #54921) [Link]
Quick follow-up.
I've enabled file-transfer in kpilot. Still humming along great. I have not yet tackled the Memo/Write problem. I'll keep you posted.
I'm using the standard stuff in kubuntu's Hardy repositories. For reference, here's the software versions I'm using:
Kontact
KAddressBook
KOrganizer
KPilot Information
ski_phreak
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