Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
Why play with Ubuntu on such a device? Even the most ardent Android supporters have sometimes been heard to complain that it's not really very Linux-like above the kernel level. There has been a constant level of interest in more "pure" alternatives like webOS, MeeGo, Nemo, etc., but, so far, none of those alternatives have found any great success in the market. So the availability of Ubuntu 12.10 for a tablet device caught your editor's eye. Might this be a reasonable path to get "real" Linux in a mobile setting?
Like all "Nexus" devices, the Nexus 7 is open from the outset; there is no need to root it via some sort of exploitable vulnerability first. It's a simple matter of plugging the device into the computer and using "fastboot" to unlock it. The unlock operation wipes all the data on the tablet, so, obviously, any needed backups should be made first. The next step is to use fastboot again to flash the "ClockworkMod" recovery image. ClockworkMod allows all kinds of low-level manipulation of the device including backups, operating system installations, and more; it really should be a standard feature of all Nexus devices.
Installation of the Ubuntu port is a straightforward task — assuming one has an Ubuntu desktop system handy. It is just a matter of installing and running the ubuntu-nexus7-installer package. Some rough edges show through quickly enough; the installer cannot figure out the storage capacity of the device and must ask the user to supply that information. More frightening, perhaps, are the scary warnings about not having any other devices attached to the system during the installation; there is, it seems, no way to tell the installer which device to overwrite.
There is another discouraging note during the installation process: the
release as a whole is made available under a noncommercial-use license.
The reason given in the license notice is proprietary drivers and
codecs from Broadcom and NVIDIA. Such restrictions have the potential to
raise all kinds of licensing issues. The problem is not created by Ubuntu,
though: they are simply using a rebuilt Android kernel and the drivers that came
with it. Be that as it may; your editor came to the conclusion that
writing a review constituted fair use rather than commercial use.
The use of the Android kernel raises some other interesting questions, since Ubuntu's user space is designed for mainline kernels. Some quick looking around suggests that Ubuntu is not using the Android-specific interfaces; wakelocks have been configured out, for example. Battery life under Ubuntu is claimed to be comparable to what is obtained with Android, but it's being done with Linux-style power management instead of opportunistic suspend. The Nexus 7 thus provides an ideal platform for comparison of the two approaches to power management; this is an area that bears watching.
Once the installation is complete, the tablet reboots and presents the
classic Ubuntu screen with the Unity icon bar on the left; there is no
login screen. It looks
like an interface that was designed for tablets, until one tries to use the
tiny icons in the upper right corner. Then, at least for the fat-fingered
among us, life starts to get harder. And it doesn't stop there. The
simple truth of the matter is that Ubuntu on the Nexus 7 is a painful
system to use; it is really only of interest to developers and other
masochists at this time.
In fairness, nobody ever claimed otherwise; it is described as an experimental release for those who want to help find and fix problems. So, sure enough, problems do exist. Many of them derive from the fact that the traditional Linux desktop (and Unity remains close enough to "traditional" for the purposes of this discussion) is just not designed around touch-oriented interfaces. Others are simply glitches in the tablet port.
So, for example, one cannot scroll windows with the standard drag gesture; instead, one ends up trying to hit scrollbars in just the right spot. Anything involving a middle or right mouse button requires a complicated dance with the "Onboard" on-screen keyboard. Autocompletion popups swallow keystrokes, so trying to type a URL into Firefox is an exercise in extended pain. The tablet often freezes or goes into a weird unresponsive mode, requiring a reboot — there is a reason that the first entry in the Ubuntu Nexus 7 FAQ is "How do you reset the device when it locks up?". The screen does not auto-rotate (but one can rotate it manually with the xrotate command). Neither Bluetooth nor the camera work. The device often runs out of memory; the known issues page describes the process for configuring zram (an in-memory compression system formerly known as Compcache), which helps a lot. And so on.
On the other hand, there's something refreshing about being able to run
multiple windows on a tablet display; as these devices grow in both size
and resolution, there really is no justification for forcing every
application to run in full-screen mode. It is nice to have a true Linux
user space with a complete package repository behind it.
The Unity "dash" is meant to be the way users find applications on the tablet. It remains rather painful to use in the touch environment, though; it is slow and the scrolling is difficult to use. Searching for applications in the main screen quickly turns up unwanted things — the opportunity to buy stuff from Amazon, for example. The interaction between the dash and the onscreen keyboard is problematic; it is often not possible to get both onto the screen at once, and, when that does work out, the keyboard tends to cover the part of the window one is trying to use.
Those difficulties notwithstanding, the onscreen keyboard is, it must be said, one of the best your editor has encountered — at least, for the task of typing at terminal emulators and related applications.
Ubuntu's keyboard lacks the word completion and correction features found on the Android keyboard, but it offers other amenities: easy access to special characters, "control" and "alt" keys, arrow keys, function keys, macros, configurable layouts, themes, and more. Your editor has not attempted to use it with Emacs, but the idea is only mildly irrational.
Some concluding thoughts
In the end, while Ubuntu on tablets is essentially unusable now, that could change in the future. Whether it will change in time to be relevant is not clear, though. Beyond the fundamental issues of making the distribution work on this hardware (and, in particular, within the tablet's memory constraints), there needs to be a set of applications that work well with touchscreens. So it is a little discouraging that Ubuntu has no plans to support Android applications; doing so would help to jump-start the distribution on mobile devices. There is also, according to Mark Shuttleworth (as quoted in this OMG! Ubuntu! article), no plan to improve the interface for the upcoming 13.04 release. So a version of Ubuntu that is actually usable on tablets is, at a bare minimum, a full year away; it may, in fact, take rather longer than that.
The situation isn't helped by Canonical's apparent determination to go it alone in this quest. Rather than pick up a system which has a lot of the basics working now (Nemo or Plasma Active, say), Canonical is trying to build up its own "Unity" shell, and it seems to lack a story altogether when it comes to the development of touch-friendly applications. So it's going to take a while, and that is unfortunate: a year or three in the future may well be too late. There are other tablet-oriented systems out there, mostly of the non-free variety, that are ready and grabbing market share now. By the time Ubuntu gets to be a serious contender, there may be no space for another offering, no matter how nice. Linux on the tablet may repeat the history of Linux on the desktop.
So Ubuntu on the tablet has the look of a cool toy that most of us may
never play with. But, then, your editor is highly gifted when it comes to
being wrong on the Internet. This distribution is certainly a cool hack,
fun to play with, and it might just attract contributors and develop
quickly into something people want to use. For now, though, your editor
will be putting Android back onto this particular device.
Posted Nov 27, 2012 17:49 UTC (Tue)
by emunson (subscriber, #44357)
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Posted Nov 27, 2012 18:28 UTC (Tue)
by corbet (editor, #1)
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Posted Nov 28, 2012 13:16 UTC (Wed)
by sebas (guest, #51660)
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The actual exercise would probably be more of a packaging-and-integration effort than cross-compiling. Most packaging systems make cross-compiling rather easy nowadays (though I have to say that I didn't try this for Debian, it certainly is easy for Mer).
Posted Nov 30, 2012 14:42 UTC (Fri)
by juliank (guest, #45896)
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* Running built tests during the package build process
Posted Dec 6, 2012 22:24 UTC (Thu)
by JanC_ (guest, #34940)
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Posted Dec 7, 2012 1:47 UTC (Fri)
by shmerl (guest, #65921)
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Posted Dec 10, 2012 19:25 UTC (Mon)
by shadeslayer (guest, #68787)
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Posted Nov 27, 2012 18:07 UTC (Tue)
by xnox (guest, #63320)
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"there is need to root it via some sort of exploitable vulnerability first." I believe "not" is missing in that sentence.
ClockworkMod is not required to be flashed on to the tablet at all. Not sure why that paragraph is included.
Posted Nov 27, 2012 18:15 UTC (Tue)
by corbet (editor, #1)
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Yes, there was a missing word with regard to rooting the tablet. Fixed, thanks.
ClockworkMod may not be necessary for Ubuntu, but it increases the power and flexibility of the tablet.
Posted Nov 27, 2012 18:43 UTC (Tue)
by job (guest, #670)
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I can think of several times I could have used that. The price is unbeatable.
Posted Nov 27, 2012 19:09 UTC (Tue)
by rvfh (guest, #31018)
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Posted Nov 27, 2012 19:35 UTC (Tue)
by dlang (guest, #313)
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I know lots of people who have laptops that would probably not notice for weeks if their screen quit working, because they always use them with docking stations or equivalent.
Current tablets are not used with full-size screens and keyboards, but most tablets couldn't run that way, and the common tablet OSs don't support it in any case.
I think that if the OS and hardware supported it, a lot of people would use tablets that way, not all the time, but a surprising amount of the time.
Posted Nov 27, 2012 20:35 UTC (Tue)
by rvfh (guest, #31018)
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> I know lots of people who have laptops that would probably not notice for weeks if their screen quit working, because they always use them with docking stations or equivalent.
> Current tablets are not used with full-size screens and keyboards, but most tablets couldn't run that way, and the common tablet OSs don't support it in any case.
> I think that if the OS and hardware supported it, a lot of people would use tablets that way, not all the time, but a surprising amount of the time.
I understand that developers may want to use a tablet to code (like you and I do, I presume), but we definitely are a minority. And from my experience, it's not easy. I tried to do that with my Galaxy Nexus (MHL to HDMI screen + bluetooth keyboard) but that just does not fly :-(
(typing this from my laptop using my Galaxy S2 as modem!)
Posted Nov 29, 2012 9:29 UTC (Thu)
by job (guest, #670)
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Posted Nov 27, 2012 19:11 UTC (Tue)
by bryce (guest, #16388)
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Theoretically it could be done via a DisplayLink adapter, but we've not sorted out how to do that using the combination of a current X stack on the antiquated kernel we're using.
Posted Nov 27, 2012 18:52 UTC (Tue)
by dlang (guest, #313)
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I've found it wonderful compared to the normal keyboards.
Posted Nov 28, 2012 11:06 UTC (Wed)
by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167)
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If I'm writing email it's a toss-up. 4.2's built-in continuous movement keyboard input works pretty well for writing normal English sentences, while the hacker keyboard is better when I want to get technical.
I'd like the system to be smart enough to always turn on the hacker keyboard when I'm in any sort of terminal type interface, but perhaps that is hard.
Posted Dec 1, 2012 0:36 UTC (Sat)
by rahvin (guest, #16953)
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Posted Nov 27, 2012 22:35 UTC (Tue)
by iamsrp (subscriber, #84011)
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Once you've done that it's a vaguely reasonable little machine. Still, not something you'd give to your granny but fun for a hack about on.
Posted Nov 27, 2012 22:36 UTC (Tue)
by dlang (guest, #313)
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Posted Nov 27, 2012 22:47 UTC (Tue)
by corbet (editor, #1)
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by liam (guest, #84133)
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Posted Nov 28, 2012 0:58 UTC (Wed)
by louie (guest, #3285)
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Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
There are packages in the repo, and, with enough patience, the tablet was able to install the plasma-active package and all it dragged in. I'm not having much luck making it actually work, though. Given the focus thus far, a working Plasma would be as much a matter of luck as anything.
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* Not prepared for different host and build architectures
* Build-time dependencies not multi-arch ready
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"Ubuntu core" ... whatever ... Of course, the installation page reads "Installing Ubuntu on Nexus 7"...
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The way 99.99% of their owners use them today ;-)
Agreed, but laptops are 'computers'. They do come with a real keyboard and a greedy powerful processor though... and MS Office as standard :-S
Defined 'current tablets' :-P
A few have HDMI out already some way or other (MHL, mini-HDMI, WiFi-display) but this is a tablet-to-TV connection mostly, which keeps the tablet in its usual use-case (see below.)
Tablets are used to play, read and show photos. These use-cases do not require a keyboard. Keyboards are more useful to type text (documents/code.)
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
What about using one's phone as a keyboard for one's tablet? Using AndroMouse/RemoteDroid etc.
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Bluetooth is mostly nonfunctional, though the instructions did say that you can get it to pair with a mouse.
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There was some mention of a battery life comparison.
Linux on the tablet may repeat the history of Linux on the desktop."history of Linux on the desktop"
Posted Nov 28, 2012 11:32 UTC (Wed)
by lab (guest, #51153)
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And my suspicion is that you are right in your understanding.
I have another suspicion though, and that is that current Android devices are getting powerful enough, to satisfy the computing needs of a great deal of users. Which means that given the plugability to suitable input/output devices (screen, keyboard, mice,...), the Android device is all you'll need, a lot/most of the time. And this could be a full Linux desktop distro running on it. I think the Motorola Atrix showed the way in this respect, and I hope it will be furthered.
Posted Nov 28, 2012 11:32 UTC (Wed)
by simosx (guest, #24338)
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When the first netbook from Acer appeared with a Linux distribution, Microsoft came in and cut the deals.
Posted Nov 30, 2012 12:27 UTC (Fri)
by jwakely (subscriber, #60262)
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s/Acer/Asus/ unless memory and STFW fail me.
I still use my Asus eeepc 701 daily (but its disk seems to be too small to upgrade beyond Fedora 15 so I'll have to replace it soon, with something ARMish I hope)
Posted Dec 3, 2012 11:28 UTC (Mon)
by njwhite (guest, #51848)
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Posted Dec 1, 2012 0:55 UTC (Sat)
by rahvin (guest, #16953)
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Under most of the worlds laws the only way to prove this as anti-competative would be real documentation of what it's really for like explicit emails indicating it's only for not making Linux laptops. Knowing that, the companies explicitly avoid putting that in writing. The result is everyone knows it's intent, but there wouldn't be a way to prosecute it without someone messing up royally and putting it in writing.
The only situation I've ever seen it prosecuted is where AMD spent the time and money to pursue the civil case where preponderance of the evidence rules instead of beyond a reasonable doubt. The government then used the civil trial evidence to basically force Intel to tack another couple items onto the civil settlement and give the agreement legal force.
Posted Dec 3, 2012 10:58 UTC (Mon)
by Lennie (subscriber, #49641)
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And Android is supposedly gonna have a larger marketshare in number of units sold in 2014 in comparison to all Windows devices combined: tablet, phone and desktop:
"...in early 2014, less than two years from now, Android installed base will exceed total Windows installed base, PCs and smartphones and tablets, all counted together."
http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/08/smar...
Obviously, this does not make the Windows market a small market.
Posted Nov 28, 2012 6:51 UTC (Wed)
by rsidd (subscriber, #2582)
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Are the bluetooth problems related to Google's throwing out bluez in favour of an inadequately tested Broadcom thing for Jelly Bean 4.2? If so, rolling back to bluez would seem the way to go.
What I would like from a tablet is the ability to run android AND a linux environment. So a chroot works nicely for me. It's a laptop when I want it to be one, and a tablet (including kindle app, Angry Birds, and whatnot) when I want it to be one.
Microsoft of all people seems to have figured out that many people would want a tablet that is usable as a laptop. I dearly hope that the Surface or Surface Pro (a) succeed and (b) can run linux eventually. Some new/upcoming models from Lenovo, Samsung and others also look promising.
I'm even seriously considering a Surface Pro with Windows 8, and putting cygwin on it! It may be good enough for my mobile needs. It depends on the price, however.
Posted Nov 28, 2012 8:34 UTC (Wed)
by khim (subscriber, #9252)
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Not really. What Microsoft does... This is typical reaction of an incumbent to a disruptive technology: Microsoft (as well as many others) fully understand that some time in the future tablets with attached keyboards and/or docks will replace laptops. And thus Microsoft created and tries to push said hybrid. The problem? Tablets are not ready yet! Sure, in a few years when problems with said hybrids will be ironed out Microsoft solution will be as attractive as Android solution or iOS solution, but till that happens it'll be poor tablet and poor laptop replacement (look on Surface reviews!). The exact same story already happened with Meego/Maemo/Sailfish/Whatever-it's-called-today and Blackberry. Nokia and RIM have understood that eventually mobile phones will be replaced with a smartphones, but they wanted the phone which is good as a phone (works few days without recharge, has physical buttons for easy use as a phone, etc) and good as a smartphone, too (have some apps, can run many of them simultaneously, etc). As a result they created the things which were problematic when used as a phone and also not great when used as a smartphone. We observe the result, isn't it?
Posted Nov 28, 2012 9:04 UTC (Wed)
by rsidd (subscriber, #2582)
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Back to tablet-laptop hybrids -- it depends what you use the laptop for. What we already have on the market (Android tablets or iPads with 3rd-party keyboard-cases) is already very useful to many people. Here in India I see many field workers carrying around cheap ($150) 7" android tablets in cheap ($10) USB keyboard cases, as an alternative to laptops. Much lighter, the battery lasts all day, there's internet everywhere via 3G or GPRS, and what comparable product can you get for $160? It makes a huge amount of sense for these people, who only need e-mail and a web browser. If you could also have productivity software, it would make sense to many more people. With Windows RT, you can have office software that's, if not the same as the "full" (Windows 8) version, at least "good enough". So I do think it is going to be very attractive to many people. And with Android, you can do it under a linux chroot (I do) but the manufacturers are missing a serious trick by not pushing this hard enough or pre-configuring it to make it easy for users. Or maybe they think QuickOffice and such things are "good enough".
Posted Nov 28, 2012 16:47 UTC (Wed)
by khim (subscriber, #9252)
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I doubt it. I had couple of Android phones with keyboards but my last one lacks it: it's just does not add enough value. Sure, for some rare users they may be a boon, but for vast majority of users they are not needed or only needed occasionally. After all most early models of Android phones had a keyboard - but people stopped buying them en masse. Right. But ask yourself: why they are using Android-based tablets and not Ubuntu-based tablets? Answer is obvious: they still want tablets. With optional, used on special occasions only, keyboard. Keyboard may be useful for texting or e-mail, but for many other uses they are not necessary and you need large screen instead (book reading, web browsing, etc). In many cases sliding keyboard will be awkward. Sure, for some people Blackberry is "enough", but the fact that RIM is dying shows that such niche is just not big enough. It'll be superattractive and will get fantastic reviews in press, but there will be no sales for a few more years at least. And you said why yourself: Windows RT is unwieldy (by tablet standards!) and, most of all, expensive. Microsoft Surface is fragile and too large. Are these problems unfixable? Of course not! They are obviously fixable - but while Microsoft is fixing them Android vendors and developers are not sleeping, too. But the striking difference is that Android vendors are selling stuff and people are learning to use Android while Windows RT is stalling.
Posted Nov 28, 2012 17:14 UTC (Wed)
by k3ninho (subscriber, #50375)
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The Android developer previews originally had keyboards - the Nexus line. For me, I want a real keyboard for haptic feedback and to avoid losing screen-space to pictures of a keyboard. I don't think either of us can speak for 'most people' due to a lack of data, but I know I'm an unserviced market niche.
K3n.
Posted Nov 28, 2012 22:37 UTC (Wed)
by khim (subscriber, #9252)
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Nexus never had a keyboard but both first Android phone (HTC G1) and first popular Android phone (Motorola Droid) had keyboards. You still can find plenty of devices with keyboards (such as Droid 4, or Samsung Galaxy Chat), but they are not as popular as phones without keyboard. Yes we can. Early in Android history most phones had QWERTY keybords (not a hard feat if you'll recall that for half a year 100% of Android phones had QWERTY because there was exactly one Android model - but even in 2010 there were dozens of them). But they were not popular. People abandoned them and even after that the surviving models failed to beat any sales records (which would be natural consequence if there are steady niche of users who refuse to use smartphone without physical keyboard). This means that while, perhaps, some people still prefer smartphones with a physical keyboard there are not enough of them to count. Smartphones are mass market products. If you don't have tens of thousand buyers (at least tens of thousands!) then you don't have buyers period. And smartphones with keyboards don't have these buyers. Or rather: they do have buyers (new models are introduced regularly), they just don't have as much buyers and non-qwerty smartphones (there are less models and these are less popular then similar non-qwerty smartphones). This is strange thing to say: there plenty of Android phones with QWERTY. Enough to create lists of best phones with keyboards. If people are buying Motorola Droid Razr or Samsung Galaxy Note instead then that just means that most of them want thin and light phone or phone with large screen more then they want keyboard.
Posted Nov 29, 2012 4:32 UTC (Thu)
by rsidd (subscriber, #2582)
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(Disclosure: I'd buy a Galaxy Chat right now, except I bought a lesser-brand device that developed charging problems within six months and is currently being repaired. This is the Micromax A78 and its form factor is superb -- its screen is as large as the older iPhones, its qwerty keypad is not quite as good as Nokia/Blackberry but still far better than typing on glass, and it runs everything I need. Too bad the big guys don't produce anything like it.)
Posted Nov 29, 2012 15:09 UTC (Thu)
by khim (subscriber, #9252)
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Well, it's Dual SIM, too - which means most lucrative sales channels are closed for it. Which automatically makes it low-cost device which requires low-spec hardware (you can not use high-end components and sell the result for cheap).
Posted Nov 30, 2012 4:40 UTC (Fri)
by rsidd (subscriber, #2582)
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It is true that only low-cost devices seem to have qwerty keypads these days. I attribute it to brainwashing by Jobs, and/or cost-consciousness on the part of the relatively discerning customers who use the phone primarily as a communication device and demand a qwerty keypad.
Posted Nov 30, 2012 19:11 UTC (Fri)
by khim (subscriber, #9252)
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How do you measure "most of the world"? By number of users or by amount of money spent on phones? Most affluent customers live in countries where carriers sell mobile phones tied to the contract - and of course you'll not see dual sim phones sold by carriers any time soon. And makes no sense whatsoever to produce high-end phones for cheap countries like China or India. Is this some kind of joke? Samsung Galaxy S Duos (July 2012): HTC Desire VC (June 2012): HTC Desire SV (November 2012): Compare it with old, obsolete, and no loner top-of-the-line phone of 2011: Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II (February 2011): All these upmarket dual-sim phones are still less powerful then by now almost two years old phone! Heck, they are still stuck with WVGA when top-of-the-line phones had WXGA for more then year: Samsung Galaxy Nexus (October 2011): If "dual sim has nothing to do with anything" then why all dual-sim phones have two years old specs? WTF? Motorola DROID 4 (January 2012) It's resolution is fine for it's size even in 2012 and it's still more powerful then all the upmarket dual-sim phones I'm not sure why people are not buying high-end QWERTY devices, but that's not because there are no offers: there are still some decent QWERTY phones but they are ever less popular. There will probably no more offers in the 2013, but that's because people are not buying them.
Posted Dec 6, 2012 23:27 UTC (Thu)
by JanC_ (guest, #34940)
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Although in many countries subsidized phones are sold that are tied to a contract, usually they are not simlocked, or the simlock is removed on simple request (sometimes a small fee needs to be paid for unlocking). Of course, unlocking the phone doesn't cancel the contract, so you still have to pay the subscription fee for the length of the contract (whether you use that particular service or not) or buy off the contract. Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_lock
Posted Nov 28, 2012 9:14 UTC (Wed)
by rsidd (subscriber, #2582)
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Posted Nov 28, 2012 13:33 UTC (Wed)
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Posted Nov 28, 2012 16:17 UTC (Wed)
by khim (subscriber, #9252)
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You mean Gotta say love that SURFACE! Have bought 12 already for Christmas gifts #FavoriteThings… via Twitter for iPad reviews? Of course these will be glowing: pecunia non olet. Serious reviews all note that two modes are confusing and many things are really hard to do without keyboard (and with keyboard it's hard to use these things with just one hand). With typical (and quite justified!) verdict: Surface is a fantastic promise, and holds fantastic potential. But while potential is worth your attention, it's not worth your paycheck. Surface RT gets so many things right, and pulls so many good things together into one package. But it is undercooked. For all Microsoft's claims to hardware perfection and software revolution, Surface RT is undone by too many little annoyances, cracks, and flaws. After the initial delight of an evolved tablet wears off, you'll groan—because Surface brings the appearance of unity, but it's really just the worst of both worlds. Instead of trading in your laptop and tablet for Surface, a cocktail of compromises that fracture the whole endeavor, you'll miss them both urgently.
Posted Dec 3, 2012 11:06 UTC (Mon)
by Lennie (subscriber, #49641)
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As the UEFI "secure boot" is always enabled by the OEM because Microsoft demanded it and there is no "BIOS-option" to turn it off.
Posted Nov 28, 2012 13:23 UTC (Wed)
by njwhite (guest, #51848)
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I'd like to imagine that the explicit disregard for peoples' freedom when it comes to phones and tablets would discourage people from buying them, and have the knock-on effect of doing less environmental and social damage (here meaning poor labour conditions). But apparently not.
Posted Nov 28, 2012 22:48 UTC (Wed)
by khim (subscriber, #9252)
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Are you sure you don't come from some parallel universe? On my Earth most buyers are not even ready to do the first baby step in the fight for "for peoples' freedom" and stop buying phones from carriers (at least in most affluent countries: somehow people in dirt poor and oppressed countries value their individual freedom more and buy unlocked phones). This means that people are not really customers as far as phones are concerned: carriers are. If people are not ready to do such an obvious first step in the fight for freedom with obvious costs and gains then what hope is there for more vague things like "acceptable terms for their hardware drivers"? Remember that Openmoko was announced year before Android. Heck, first hardware for Openmoko was released before Android's announce! But carriers refused to buy it and as was noted above end users refuse to become customers for the mobile phones thus it's fate was obvious from the very beginning.
Posted Nov 28, 2012 23:27 UTC (Wed)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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Mostly only people from US/Canada/UK are in thrall to phone companies.
Posted Nov 29, 2012 20:38 UTC (Thu)
by BenHutchings (subscriber, #37955)
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That's a very broad sweep! But practically, carrier locking is associated with carrier subsidy, a form of credit. Poorer people are less likely to be considered creditworthy, and poorer countries are less likely to have a norm of carrier subsidy.
Posted Nov 30, 2012 19:17 UTC (Fri)
by khim (subscriber, #9252)
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Posted Nov 30, 2012 19:38 UTC (Fri)
by Klavs (guest, #10563)
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Well - in Denmark atleast, it's most likely primarily because it was deemed illegal to bind a customer more than 6 months - otherwise most would probably be stupid enough to do it, to save a dime in the short run.
Fortunately we have some consumer protection :)
Posted Nov 29, 2012 13:59 UTC (Thu)
by NAR (subscriber, #1313)
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Of course, with a real keyboard the tablet could be used for work too, but in that case it would be not that much lighter or smaller than a notebook. So the use case I can imagine is that at work (or home) people plug the tablet into the docking station and use it like a computer, then when they commute between work and home, use the tablet for browsing. I'm not that convinced that pros of the "desktop application on tablet" over "app on a smartphone" would cancel the cons of the tablet size (and weight) over the smartphone. A smartphone still fits into a pocket, but a tablet requires a backpack...
Posted Nov 29, 2012 14:16 UTC (Thu)
by dlang (guest, #313)
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I've seen a lot of people with ipads typing away happily (and rapidly) on their on-screen keyboards making notes in meetings over the years. personally, I'll bring along a fold-up keyboard for any serious note taking, but I'm the type who uses the old IBM clicky keybards when possible.
Posted Nov 29, 2012 18:26 UTC (Thu)
by zlynx (guest, #2285)
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Posted Dec 6, 2012 14:26 UTC (Thu)
by redden0t8 (guest, #72783)
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"history of Linux on the desktop"
"history of Linux on the desktop"
I think the way it works is that if a manufacturer supports only Windows, then they get special discounts from Microsoft for their OEM Windows. Since most manufacturers still depend on their Windows sales, they cave in and exclude Linux.
These deals are obviously kept secret, and I wonder whether a competition authority should look into them.
"history of Linux on the desktop"
"history of Linux on the desktop"
"history of Linux on the desktop"
"history of Linux on the desktop"
"history of Linux on the desktop"
"history of Linux on the desktop"
"history of Linux on the desktop"
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
Microsoft of all people seems to have figured out that many people would want a tablet that is usable as a laptop.
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
Steve Jobs with his reality distortion field convinced the world they don't need physical keypads. He was wrong and they are wrong.
What we already have on the market (Android tablets or iPads with 3rd-party keyboard-cases) is already very useful to many people. Here in India I see many field workers carrying around cheap ($150) 7" android tablets in cheap ($10) USB keyboard cases, as an alternative to laptops.
If you could also have productivity software, it would make sense to many more people. With Windows RT, you can have office software that's, if not the same as the "full" (Windows 8) version, at least "good enough". So I do think it is going to be very attractive to many people.
Much lighter, the battery lasts all day, there's internet everywhere via 3G or GPRS, and what comparable product can you get for $160?
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
>I doubt it. I had couple of Android phones with keyboards but my last one lacks it: it's just does not add enough value. Sure, for some rare users they may be a boon, but for vast majority of users they are not needed or only needed occasionally. After all most early models of Android phones had a keyboard - but people stopped buying them en masse.
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
The Android developer previews originally had keyboards - the Nexus line.
I don't think either of us can speak for 'most people' due to a lack of data, but
For me, I want a real keyboard for haptic feedback and to avoid losing screen-space to pictures of a keyboard. I know I'm an unserviced market niche.
For some reason these days it's only the cheap phones (like the Galaxy Chat) that have a qwerty keypad. Top-end phones don't. Either there's a market failure, or there is a market, but the buyers don't want to spend a lot of money. Assuming the latter hypothesis, maybe there's a lesson here. If you're the sort who wants the phone to be a useful device, you probably value function over flashy features, you don't care about smooth animation or CPU-intensive games. And you will buy a Galaxy Chat for a fraction the price of a Galaxy S III. You will not buy a more expensive SIII with a physical keypad, because you'd rather spend the money on something more useful.
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
This is the Micromax A78 and its form factor is superb -- its screen is as large as the older iPhones, its qwerty keypad is not quite as good as Nokia/Blackberry but still far better than typing on glass, and it runs everything I need. Too bad the big guys don't produce anything like it.
In most of the world, you buy the phone separately from your phone plan, and a dual sim is an advantage, not a disadvantage. There are upmarket dual-sim phones from major brands too, like the Samsung Galaxy S Duos. and some HTC Desire models. In short, dual sim has nothing to do with anything.
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
In most of the world, you buy the phone separately from your phone plan, and a dual sim is an advantage, not a disadvantage.
There are upmarket dual-sim phones from major brands too, like the Samsung Galaxy S Duos and some HTC Desire models.
480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches
768 MB RAM
4 GB internal memory
1 GHz Cortex-A5 (single core)
480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches
512 MB RAM
4 GB storage
1 GHz Cortex-A5 (single core)
480 x 800 pixels, 4.3 inches
768 MB RAM
4 GB storage
1 GHz Cortex-A5 (dual core, finally, but still obsolete architecture)
480 x 800 pixels, 4.3 inches
1 GB RAM
16GB/32GB storage
1.2 GHz Cortex-A9 (dual core)
720 x 1280 pixels, 4.65 inches
1 GB RAM
16 GB storage
1.2 GHz Cortex-A9 (dual-core)In short, dual sim has nothing to do with anything.
It is true that only low-cost devices seem to have qwerty keypads these days. I attribute it to brainwashing by Jobs, and/or cost-consciousness on the part of the relatively discerning customers who use the phone primarily as a communication device and demand a qwerty keypad.
540 x 960 pixels, 4.0 inches
1 GB RAM
16 GB
1.2 GHz Cortex-A9 (dual-core)Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
Most affluent customers live in countries where carriers sell mobile phones tied to the contract [...].
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57554073-75/a-black-fri...
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
Otherwise, the reviews I've seen are glowing.
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
... people in dirt poor and oppressed countries value their individual freedom more ...
Many European countries are usually considered "not-all-that-free", "socialist" countries by Americans but many of them are quite affluent... and they don't sell their freedom by signing two—years contracts. Strange, isn't it?
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
Ubuntu on the Nexus 7
Do we need Ubuntu on a tablet?
Do we need Ubuntu on a tablet?
Do we need Ubuntu on a tablet?
Do we need Ubuntu on a tablet?