Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) released
| From: | Kate Stewart <kate.stewart-AT-ubuntu.com> | |
| To: | ubuntu-announce-AT-lists.ubuntu.com | |
| Subject: | Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) released!! | |
| Date: | Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:15:29 -0500 | |
| Message-ID: | <1318511729.25884.154.camel@veni> |
"There is nothing like a dream to create the future." - Victor Hugo The Ubuntu team is pleased to announce Ubuntu 11.10, code-named "Oneiric Ocelot". 11.10 continues Ubuntu's proud tradition of integrating the latest and greatest open source technologies into a high-quality, easy-to-use Linux distribution. For PC users, Ubuntu 11.10 supports laptops, desktops and netbooks with a unified look and feel based on an updated version of the desktop shell called "Unity", which introduces specialized "Lenses". Finding and installing software using the Ubuntu Software Centre is now easier thanks to improvements in speed, search functionality enhancements, and usability improvements. Aside from updates on the performance side, it's also more aesthetically appealing. Ubuntu Server 11.10 has made it much easier to provision, deploy, host, manage, and orchestrate enterprise data centre infrastructure services with the introduction of "Orchestra". The Juju technical preview allows service developers to describe the deployment and scaling requirements of their applications, in order to simplify and enhance the dialogue between developers and operations teams. For those working on the ARM architecture, a technical preview is also provided for the ARM server. Read more about the new features of Ubuntu 11.10 in the following press releases: http://www.canonical.com/content/transforming-home-pc-ubu... http://www.canonical.com/content/client-cloud-ubuntu-1110... Standard maintenance updates will be provided for Ubuntu 11.10 for 18 months, through April 2013. Thanks to the efforts of the global translation community, Ubuntu is now available in 38 languages. For a list of available languages and detailed translation statistics for these and other languages, see: http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/stats/ubuntu-11.10-trans... Ubuntu 11.10 is the base for the newest 11.10 iterations of Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Mythbuntu, Ubuntu Studio, and our newest addition to this release cycle, Lubuntu! Kubuntu: http://kubuntu.org/news/11.10-release Xubuntu: http://xubuntu.org/news/11.10-release Edubuntu http://edubuntu.org/news/11.10-release Mythbuntu: http://mythbuntu.org/11.10/release Ubuntu Studio: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/11.10release_notes Lubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/11.10 Ubuntu 11.10 is also now available on two new ARM community-supported ports. AC100 (Toshiba Tegra 2 Netbook): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100 MX5 (Freescale i.MX53 QuickStart): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/MX5 To get Ubuntu 11.10 ------------------- In order to download Ubuntu 11.10, visit: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download Users of Ubuntu 11.04 will be offered an automatic upgrade to 11.10 via Update Manager. For further information about upgrading, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade As always, upgrades to the latest version of Ubuntu are entirely free of charge. We recommend that all users read the release notes, which document caveats, workarounds for known issues, as well as more in-depth notes on the release itself. They are available at: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes Find out what's new in this release with a graphical overview: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/whats-new http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/features If you have a question, or if you think you may have found a bug but aren't sure, you can try asking in any of the following places: #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ http://askubuntu.com/ Help Shape Ubuntu -------------------- If you would like to help shape Ubuntu, take a look at the list of ways you can participate at: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate/ About Ubuntu ------------ Ubuntu is a full-featured Linux distribution for desktops, laptops, netbooks and servers, with a fast and easy installation and regular releases. A tightly-integrated selection of excellent applications is included, and an incredible variety of add-on software is just a few clicks away. Professional services including support are available from Canonical and hundreds of other companies around the world. For more information about support, visit: http://www.ubuntu.com/support More Information ---------------- You can learn more about Ubuntu and about this release on our website listed below: http://www.ubuntu.com/ To sign up for future Ubuntu announcements, please subscribe to Ubuntu's very low volume announcement list at: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce/ Kate Stewart, on behalf of the Ubuntu Release Team -- ubuntu-announce mailing list ubuntu-announce@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce
Posted Oct 13, 2011 17:29 UTC (Thu)
by proski (subscriber, #104)
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Posted Oct 13, 2011 17:51 UTC (Thu)
by forlwn (guest, #63934)
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Posted Oct 13, 2011 20:13 UTC (Thu)
by horen (guest, #2514)
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Good move! By default, no cursive allowed in comment sections.
Posted Oct 13, 2011 21:21 UTC (Thu)
by jengelh (guest, #33263)
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Posted Oct 13, 2011 22:44 UTC (Thu)
by armijn (subscriber, #3653)
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Posted Oct 13, 2011 20:01 UTC (Thu)
by debacle (subscriber, #7114)
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Just kidding, congratulations to the new release!
Posted Oct 13, 2011 21:25 UTC (Thu)
by SEJeff (guest, #51588)
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In all seriousness, congrats to the Ubuntu folks on another solid release.
Posted Oct 14, 2011 7:21 UTC (Fri)
by topyli (guest, #62267)
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Posted Oct 14, 2011 9:40 UTC (Fri)
by AlexHudson (guest, #41828)
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Of the Gnome 3 technologies in use by Ubuntu, I guess there is plumbing like Gtk+ and GVFS. But Gnome 3 is much broader than that, and than shell. For example, gdm, eds, etc. are all really part of Gnome.
Saying that Unity is in any way based on Gnome 3 is, to me, like saying Xfce is. Which is to say, it just isn't, not in any meaningful way. And certainly not to any end-user.
Posted Oct 14, 2011 10:47 UTC (Fri)
by topyli (guest, #62267)
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Now apt-get install gnome-shell. Log out. In the login screen, choose "GNOME" as your session. Login. Witness GNOME 3 with GNOME Shell, no Unity. For full effect, change the theme from "Ambiance" to "Adwaita".
Posted Oct 14, 2011 12:05 UTC (Fri)
by AlexHudson (guest, #41828)
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On a fresh install, I do 'apt-get install gnome-shell'.
Response: it wants to download ~80Mb of packages (39 of which are new), and that's just to get the shell, i.e. the very bare bones of Gnome 3.
If I want gnome-desktop-environment, which seems to be much closer to an actual Gnome 3 desktop, it wants to download ~195Mb. In contrast, to install xfdesktop4 it wants ~11Mb of packages, and kde-plasma-desktop wants ~89Mb.
I mean, unless you're making a point about how great dependency resolution is, I'm really not sure I see what you're on about. Yes, "apt-get install gnome-shell" gets you a bare bones Gnome 3. So does "apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop". They both want to download about the same amount of packages. By that logic, Ubuntu is based on KDE 4.
(I would also reply to PaulSladen, but I don't get what point is being made there either).
Posted Oct 14, 2011 12:20 UTC (Fri)
by BeS (guest, #43108)
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>Now apt-get install gnome-shell. Log out. In the login screen, choose "GNOME" as your session. Login. Witness GNOME 3 with GNOME Shell, no Unity. Sure, as you said you selected "GNOME" as your session and you got GNOME(3). If you select Unity you get Unity. I'm with Alex. Unity (at least the 3D version) uses a lot of GNOME and Gtk+ technology but at the end it's a different desktop environment. The desktop itself is an integral part of a desktop environment. This together with all the integration of GNOME online accounts, IM, GNOME contacts, gnome documents, program handling, desktop handling,... creates an unique desktop experience for the user. This experience beside some programs is completely different between GNOME3 and Unity. With Unity you have some GNOME/Gtk+ apps, some GNOME/Gtk+ libs but as a whole it's not GNOME. Like XFCE is not GNOME just because it uses a lot of Gtk+/GNOME technology. I can understand that the Ubuntu community is careful with respect to the communication regarding GNOME. But if you just look at the facts you have to say that Ubuntu now develops a new desktop even if it is based on GNOME/Gtk+ technology for now (future will show what happens because they also have the option to go with Qt/KDE technology as seen with Unity2D) That's not a bad thing but we should call it what it is. Unity is Unity and GNOME is GNOME
Posted Oct 14, 2011 12:52 UTC (Fri)
by topyli (guest, #62267)
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Obviously Ubuntu's set of default applications is different, so the download will be big.
gnome-shell's dependencies alone include gnome-panel, metacity, panel applets and other stuff that are related to the fallback mode. Naturally, none of this is installed on a default Ubuntu system.
None of this changes the fact that Unity simply sits on a GNOME 3 environment. It's just the shell.
Posted Oct 14, 2011 13:22 UTC (Fri)
by AlexHudson (guest, #41828)
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- we agree the set of default applications is different, and gnome apps are missing
If we just install the barebones shell, what else do we get:
So aside from the shell, the applications, the APIs, the desktop manager, the font, the theme, the UX, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, it is Gnome 3, yeah.
BeS summed it up best, "Unity is Unity and GNOME is GNOME". There's no shame in that, but there's also no point pretending otherwise.
Posted Oct 14, 2011 18:57 UTC (Fri)
by topyli (guest, #62267)
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No verdict yet on rhythmbox vs. banshee :)
Posted Oct 14, 2011 21:11 UTC (Fri)
by alecs1 (guest, #46699)
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I find that investing in 1 GiB of memory more is totally worth it for loading whatever library of my favourite but eccentric application, built maybe with LISP, MFC and Wine.
Posted Oct 23, 2011 3:10 UTC (Sun)
by ccurtis (guest, #49713)
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Hmm. Check out Clementine ( http://www.clementine-player.org/ ) if you're not yet familiar.
Posted Oct 14, 2011 11:11 UTC (Fri)
by sladen (guest, #27402)
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Posted Oct 14, 2011 8:07 UTC (Fri)
by tajyrink (subscriber, #2750)
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Posted Oct 14, 2011 8:10 UTC (Fri)
by halla (subscriber, #14185)
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Still need to figure out which patch to Qt broke Krita this time, though...
Posted Oct 15, 2011 4:51 UTC (Sat)
by xxiao (guest, #9631)
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Posted Oct 20, 2011 3:42 UTC (Thu)
by hazmat (subscriber, #668)
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Actually one of the fun demos (recently done at the openstack summit) is deploying openstack on physical hardware, and then using juju to deploy hadoop against the openstack cloud.
Posted Oct 16, 2011 23:27 UTC (Sun)
by ssmith32 (subscriber, #72404)
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A poor average programmer's experience with ocelot..
About the same as the previous version, but harder to fix.
Upgrade to Ocelot.
*sigh*
apt-get install gnome-panel
*sigh*
I just spent two hours to make it work like before & nothing's better.
Going into dconf reminding me of going into win7 registry at work to constantly re-enable various effects on remote desktop. Inability to reconfigure anything reminds of of my Mac that doesn't let me enlarge the fonts, and has applications that assume that I run at a certain resolution..
Time to find a new distribution for lazy people that just want to program (eclipse/gvim/mysql/java/python) and surf the web (firefox/flash disabled on everything except hulu), and not spend hours configuring their OS...
What Ubuntu used to be .. and why I've been using it for years, and installing it everywhere I can at work.
Another distribution slowly going down the drain. Ah well. Maybe I'm curmudgeonly enough for debian stable now?
Posted Oct 17, 2011 11:05 UTC (Mon)
by Cato (guest, #7643)
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It comes in Ubuntu-based versions (GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, etc) that follow the Ubuntu releases, but are still GNOME 2.x based for now; and also has a rolling-release Debian edition (LMDE) based on Debian Testing, which comes in GNOME and XFCE versios. See http://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php
Linux Mint 9 is the LTS equivalent of Ubuntu 10.04 - I've been testing Linux Mint 11 a bit, and so far it is much nicer to use than recent Ubuntu versions. LMDE seems like a nicely packaged version of Debian but I haven't tried it.
I did install Ubuntu 11.10 briefly but found many annoying issues (launcher won't reliably slide out, the Dash sometimes won't accept keyboard input, EDID was sensed OK to set monitor size on live CD, but not when installed to disk, etc.) Having had a nightmarish Lucid 10.04 upgrade, I am now parting company with Ubuntu in the hope that Mint is better.
I will use Mint 11 (Ubuntu based) initially to get the latest hardware support for one PC with Intel GMA3100 GPU, but I may go for LMDE for my main PC.
Ubuntu still seems like a good option for at least web-oriented servers as it has the combination of rapid security updates (unlike CentOS these days), widespread support by cloud projects (unlike Debian and CentOS), and some commercial acceptability (most VPS and cloud providers support it). Ubuntu 11.10 also has Xen support at last through Linux 3.0, so I could run test instances of VPSs on a local server.
Posted Oct 17, 2011 11:08 UTC (Mon)
by Cato (guest, #7643)
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You should also install NoScript of course but Flashblock is better for Flash blocking.
Posted Oct 17, 2011 14:12 UTC (Mon)
by cortana (subscriber, #24596)
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I actually really like this change, but until I read about it on some random blog post on the web, I too thought that they had removed the ability to customise the panel at all, and was quite grumpy.
Posted Oct 17, 2011 17:41 UTC (Mon)
by Cato (guest, #7643)
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Posted Oct 17, 2011 18:11 UTC (Mon)
by cortana (subscriber, #24596)
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I agree that the discoverability needs to be improved, but I've never used a bit of software where this couldn't not be stated to be the case. :)
Posted Oct 17, 2011 18:15 UTC (Mon)
by Cato (guest, #7643)
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Posted Oct 17, 2011 4:32 UTC (Mon)
by jiu (guest, #57673)
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Posted Oct 17, 2011 5:22 UTC (Mon)
by sfeam (subscriber, #2841)
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Full support for Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and other script languages
I hope JavaScript is supported too :)
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- we agree that the fallback system is different, and gnome's fallback is missing
- I think we agree that it doesn't use Gnome's desktop manager GDM
- we agree it doesn't use the same theme, font or look etc.
- presumably we can agree that Unity has its own non-gnome APIs too
- apps
- on-screen keyboard
- introspection files for Gnome libraries (aka the actual Gnome API)
- gjs
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Amarok / Clementine
AlexHudson: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Belief
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- Victor Hugo
Looks pretty.
Start working.
Computer starts making lots of annoying, distracting noises.
Compiz at 30% of the CPU on a 4 core 8 GB ram, while I'm surfing the web.
My calming background wallpaper has been replaced with a suicidally black background.
login to gnome classic.
clock is sitting in the middle of the panel, no way to move it around or resize the panel.
Wallpaper still black.. find/locate reveals it's been deleted off the machine... thank you Mark Shuttleworth...
Spend an half-hour or more to find background again on web.
Spend another half-hour or more trying various tricks to unlock panel.
Finally go into dconf & resize panel & change padding or something to move clock to right.
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"Rien n'est tel que le dogme pour enfanter le rêve. Et rien n'est tel que le rêve pour engendrer l'avenir. Utopie aujourd'hui, chair et os demain." Victor Hugo
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